For those of you that invite others to objectify you:

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  • SweetTeaAndCutoffs
    SweetTeaAndCutoffs Posts: 59 Member
    I think it's just for fun....I don't think too much into these silly games. It's really just to pass time while I'm bored. If I was offended by it, I wouldn't be here.
  • BeinAwesome247
    BeinAwesome247 Posts: 257 Member
    firstly because beauty is in the eye of the beholder

    My teacher says true beauty is on the inside
    That's just something ugly people say... ~quote from Liar Liar

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  • amandapye78
    amandapye78 Posts: 820 Member
    I see what you are saying, but the way I have always looked at the internet is like its a made up world. If I post on those topics then it in no way affects my real life and in real life I would never do things like that, so if someone objectifies me on here it doesn't affect me in anyway unless I let it.
  • glovepuppet
    glovepuppet Posts: 1,710 Member
    i guess you could compare it to the suggested link between violent video games and violent crimes. if a guy is used to women accepting lewd comments online, is he more likely to make lewd comments to the woman in the bar? if we encourage it online, are we creating a problem offline? even if you decide the theory is horse balls, you'd have to be an ignoramous of the highest order to not give it some thought.
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
    'People' also need tougher skin when it comes to teasing and not take crap so seriously.
    classic playground justification.

    That's a fair point, how about my original comment?
  • Shauncho49
    Shauncho49 Posts: 132 Member
    yeah...you're kinda over-thinking it. Some people need that encouragement...to know that someone out there, somewhere, thinks they're hot or cute or whatever. Some people have never felt that before and I don't think we should take that away from them. To the OP, you're quite attractive...I'm sure you've heard it at least a handful of times if not many more. Some people have never felt or or been told by anyone they're attractive.

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    Exhibit A...this mug. You think I get told I'm attractive by anyone other than my wife?...never have in my entire life have I heard that term used to describe me. Some people don't have someone to tell them they're attractive and would like to hear it from someone, sometime in their life.

    And it also kinda sucks that you assume the majority of the population on MFP is weak-willed enough to be "trained" into thinking they can objectify everyone. If anyone is a regular here enough to where they're participating in such forum discussions, they are DEFINITELY not weak-willed. As we all know it takes dedication to our own set of personal values in order to achieve the fitness level of our dreams.

    OP, next time, think before you speak out loud...please, for the sake of all of us. :)
  • peggysue218
    peggysue218 Posts: 126 Member
    People are desperate for attention. I judge them for their stupidity, so let them blissfully judge themselves.
  • Cr01502
    Cr01502 Posts: 3,614 Member
    I think it's just for fun....I don't think too much into these silly games. It's really just to pass time while I'm bored. If I was offended by it, I wouldn't be here.

    Oh and clearly since you're not offended by it then I'm going to just go ahead and jump to the conclusion that it's because you lack intelligence and self esteem. Obviously you don't know how to make these decisions for yourself because any man/woman that enjoys hearing that somebody may like to "bang" them is some sort of pervert, degenerate or has daddy issues.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    i guess you could compare it to the suggested link between violent video games and violent crimes. if a guy is used to women accepting lewd comments online, is he more likely to make lewd comments to the woman in the bar? if we encourage it online, are we creating a problem offline? even if you decide the theory is horse balls, you'd have to be an ignoramous of the highest order to not give it some thought.

    If we train men all their lives that they can expect women to be beautiful sexual objects whose primary goal and utility is to be attractive, that's how men will treat women.

    And, uh.... that's exactly what happens.
  • glovepuppet
    glovepuppet Posts: 1,710 Member
    'People' also need tougher skin when it comes to teasing and not take crap so seriously.
    classic playground justification.

    That's a fair point, how about my original comment?
    i'm too lazy to go look for it. there's almost 200 posts in this thread.
    what was your original comment?
  • ModoVincere
    ModoVincere Posts: 530 Member
    I'm perfectly fine with being objectified....and banged.
  • toaster6
    toaster6 Posts: 703 Member
    Well, people can comment on your looks and think you are more than how you look, no? There are plenty of people I truly care about and also "rate". This is a fitness site and people are going to discuss their bodies. In any case, the people you seem to be concerned about-- the one that objectify and find no value in others except for aesthetic values-- will objectify others whether it is invited or not and they will most likely continue to do so whether others object to it.
  • glovepuppet
    glovepuppet Posts: 1,710 Member
    I think it's just for fun....I don't think too much into these silly games. It's really just to pass time while I'm bored. If I was offended by it, I wouldn't be here.

    Oh and clearly since you're not offended by it then I'm going to just go ahead and jump to the conclusion that it's because you lack intelligence and self esteem. Obviously you don't know how to make these decisions for yourself because any man/woman that enjoys hearing that somebody may like to "bang" them is some sort of pervert, degenerate or has daddy issues.
    as a degenerate pervert with daddy issues, i take offence at that.
    i guess you could compare it to the suggested link between violent video games and violent crimes. if a guy is used to women accepting lewd comments online, is he more likely to make lewd comments to the woman in the bar? if we encourage it online, are we creating a problem offline? even if you decide the theory is horse balls, you'd have to be an ignoramous of the highest order to not give it some thought.

    If we train men all their lives that they can expect women to be beautiful sexual objects whose primary goal and utility is to be attractive, that's how men will treat women.

    And, uh.... that's exactly what happens.
    and that's all society trains women expect. getting a U R HAWT! from a perv counts as a win.
    and here, right -here- is the point where i resist getting into a rant about fairy tales.
  • diodelcibo
    diodelcibo Posts: 2,564 Member
    6.98943928/10.6
  • _DaniD_
    _DaniD_ Posts: 2,186 Member
    6.5/10 WNB
  • BurtHuttz
    BurtHuttz Posts: 3,653 Member
    6.5/10 WNB

    U R HAWT!
  • missprincessgina
    missprincessgina Posts: 446 Member
    I don't really see a huge problem with the date, bang, marry, etc. posts. People post it under "Chit-chat, fun, and games" and they are amusing to read.
  • _DaniD_
    _DaniD_ Posts: 2,186 Member
    6.5/10 WNB

    U R HAWT!

    Please do not objectify me.
  • n2thenight24
    n2thenight24 Posts: 1,651 Member
    It's nice to be objectified every now and then, and if you don't think so, you should live a little more :)
  • Cr01502
    Cr01502 Posts: 3,614 Member
    I don't really see a huge problem with the date, bang, marry, etc. posts. People post it under "Chit-chat, fun, and games" and they are amusing to read.

    10/10
  • BurtHuttz
    BurtHuttz Posts: 3,653 Member
    Please do not objectify me.

    I'm sorry Ms. D. I didn't mean to imply, by expressing my appreciation for your visage, that I believe this is all that there is to you.

    In observations of your behavior around the forums, and in your feeds, I have noted a gentle toughness that is belied by your youthful, beautiful exterior. You always take the time to help others, and your advice is usually sound.

    I appreciate your sense of humor and your intellect, in addition to your physical charms. I am proud to count you among my friends and, yes, would bang.

    Jimmies unrustled, everyone?
  • sheldonsteyn
    sheldonsteyn Posts: 483 Member
    Harmless fun/entertainment n I rather value the chit chat fun n games section when im bored at work all night!
  • twelfty
    twelfty Posts: 576 Member
    this seems to be coming in handy quite a bit....

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  • michellelemorgan
    michellelemorgan Posts: 184 Member
    I think it's pretty immature, but like others have said I just stay off of those threads. I definitely understand the desire to be objectified but when I want to be objectified I just wear a short skirt and wedges out in public and get objectified in real life. We work hard enough for our bodies that if we want to wear our skirts a little shorter and our heels a little higher we have the divine right to do so. :)
  • drchimpanzee
    drchimpanzee Posts: 892 Member
    OP is 8/10, would bang
  • StheK
    StheK Posts: 443 Member
    When you post things like "bang, date, marry?" or "cute, hot, or sexy?" and ask people to objectify you, you are training them to think of everyone around them in those terms. You invite them to make a value judgement of your body, and they begin to make those judgements about others. I speak not just on behalf of women but of everyone on this site. Our culture places way too much value on judgements about people. Is it not enough to just be what you are? Do you have to be "bangable" or "flirty" or have all of these other labels attached to you? And if you do, could you handle that somewhere other than a site for folks who aren't satisfied with their bodies anyways? I realize an ego boost is nice, and I don't mind getting ego boosts every so often, but maybe the place for that is your personal profile or a "hot or not" site.

    I can't tell you guys what to post or what to think- the purpose of this post is to invite some discussion about how we create these labels and values for each other and ourselves even as they make us uncomfortable or sad. Many women feel that a "male-dominated culture" has set up these cages of self-judgement for them, but then they go out in pants that say "juicy" across their butts or ask others how hot they are from 1-10. I try really hard to avoid these types of discussions, firstly because beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and secondly because I feel that I have value in and of myself, not just when I'm given a number or a name.

    What do you guys think? Do you like it when people tell you you're a certain type of person? Do you like it when people rate you? Do you think others like it when you rate them?

    I agree 100%. I don't understand how this is "fun", and I think these kinds of things definitely contribute to rape culture. I think women are just as bad as men when it comes to perpetuating this stuff and the whole thing makes me sad. I avoid those threads and those people, and I'm sure the feeling is mutual.
  • glovepuppet
    glovepuppet Posts: 1,710 Member
    OP is 8/10, would bang
    and yet i suspect she would rather eat her own eyeballs... :smile:
  • drchimpanzee
    drchimpanzee Posts: 892 Member
    OP is 8/10, would bang
    and yet i suspect she would rather eat her own eyeballs... :smile:

    Based off your ear you are 7/10, marry.
  • FireEngineRedHead
    FireEngineRedHead Posts: 281 Member
    OP is 8/10, would bang
    and yet i suspect she would rather eat her own eyeballs... :smile:

    Based off your ear you are 7/10, marry.

    9/10 bang date marry. in that order.
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
    i'm too lazy to go look for it. there's almost 200 posts in this thread.
    what was your original comment?

    It was from the previous page.
    With all of the truly horrible things that go on in the world, from sex trafficking of minors to genocide to Justin Beiber, I really think that trying to link a couple of obvious flirt threads in a fun and games section of an online forum to the overarching objectification of women and general bias against the obese or ugly in Western culture is a waste of time.

    And to your point about video games, that connection has not been established and is arugably a copout for poor parenting, lack of detection of mental illness, and generally poor local role models for young people.
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