How to make regular cheerios taste good?
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So you forgot the combination of words "as well"the many times you said you couldn't breathe? OkayBlondeBeauty5 wrote: »
Inability to breathe properly would not be caused by low iron. Shortness of breath, yes. Inability to breath, no.BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »
That was something to ask your medical dream team.BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »If I eat red meat for 5 days straight, will it correct this? How much of it would I have to eat?
In general, I would say no. That you need to eat a proper well rounded diet that includes high iron meat on a daily basis indefinitely if you're *THAT* anemic for an unknown reason.
(because a normal menstrual cycle, as you claim to have, shouldn't leave you anemic)
Does being a vegetarian except for the occasional hotdog and occasional ham/turkey sandwich cause anemia? The RDA for iron is 100%. This is what you have to have a day to maintain your iron levels. If you don't, your body pulls from your ferritin stores to get what it needs. For years I didn't get 100% a day. At one point I was getting about 50% a day. This is the result of that.
I would keep eating red meat after 5 days. I just meant would I start feeling better and able to breathe again? And someone please tell me what it is about red meat and not ground turkey meat cause the iron percentages are similar so I don't get it.
Sorry but you're trolling at this point. So now you can't beeath? I though a few pages back you said you had no deficiencies.
I haven't been able to breathe for a while. I said I have no deficiencies EXCEPT for iron. Please go back and reread it.
Go take an iron supplement. You are literally like 5 bucks away from solving your problem.
That's what I'm talking about. Shortness of breath. When I say I can't breathe, that's what I'm referring to. I mean I can't breathe as well.0 -
BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »I prefer to correct this the natural way through food instead of through supplements. What's wrong with that? I'm still listening to all of your opinions and suggestions.
Now you're just contradicting yourself. When we told you that the cereal was enriched (iron added into it) you said that it was the same as taking a supplement. That it was OK to get your iron through an inorganic source.
Now you are saying you prefer to get it through your food. Cheerios don't pop off a Cheerios tree full of iron...
Cheerios are food so what are you saying?
Okay OP, what are you willing to actually do to correct your iron deficiency.
let's start with that.0 -
BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »
beef and broccoli... and an iron supplement.
Seriously, I was low on vitamin d and b12. Two b12 injections (one self administered) and I take d3 and b12 pills daily. Easy, peasy.
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BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »And the definition of a vegetarian is someone who eats little to no meat products. I ate little meat at the time so that still made me a vegetarian.
No, it really isn't.
Webster's Dictionary....
vegetarian
[vej-i-tair-ee-uh n]
Spell Syllables
Examples Word Origin
noun
1.
a person who does not eat or does not believe in eating meat, fish, fowl, or, in some cases, any food derived from animals, as eggs or cheese, but subsists on vegetables, fruits, nuts, grain, etc.
Okay so you're right. But I did not eat a lot of meat for years. I never ate red meat besides hotdogs. And I would just eat turkey/ham sandwiches.
Turkey and ham are meat. They come from animals. If you ate turkey and ham, you were not vegetarian.0 -
BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »marissafit06 wrote: »
I recommended this to OP two months ago and she refused to try it. I love spatone.
I've read it tastes like blood. I can't handle that.
it's.... IRON!
Flintstones chewables have iron and don't taste like blood. Meat has iron and doesn't taste like blood. Fortified cereals have iron and don't taste like blood.
And yet the chewable are somehow too disgusting to eat. Logic.0 -
BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »I prefer to correct this the natural way through food instead of through supplements. What's wrong with that? I'm still listening to all of your opinions and suggestions.
Now you're just contradicting yourself. When we told you that the cereal was enriched (iron added into it) you said that it was the same as taking a supplement. That it was OK to get your iron through an inorganic source.
Now you are saying you prefer to get it through your food. Cheerios don't pop off a Cheerios tree full of iron...
Cheerios are food so what are you saying?
Okay OP, what are you willing to actually do to correct your iron deficiency.
let's start with that.
I'm willing to try the Multigrain Cheerios and see if I like them. If not, I guess I'll stick with the Honey Nut ones as a snack.
I've thought about making my own chex mix with chex cereal which is rich in iron. But I remember when I used to eat chex mix and how I'd leave most of the chex in the bag and eat the other stuff so Idk if that will work.
I'm gonna try a piece of red meat that my mom made tonight. I'm willing to eat more broccoli although it doesn't act like it's rich in iron on google. I know it's rich in Vitamin C though which will help absorption.
If I have to, I'm willing to try half of the Flintstones vitamin but it will really be a struggle.
Then work on those things and see how they work for you until you're able to see your doctor.
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BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »OK so... now the obvious solution of rather tasty flintstones chewables causes gagging? WTF. OK. Have we gotten from the OP why simple pills you don't chew, but just swallow with some water won't work?
Posted December 13th "Does Total cereal taste good?"
Posted January 6th "Can Flintstones chewables correct iron deficiency?"
Posted February 8th "Question for those of you familiar with Flintstones chewables?"
Posted March 12th "Does eating meat regularly correct iron deficiency?"
Please refer to her monthly threads for that answer.
OMG. Well never mind then. OP needs to have her head examined first before solving any other issues
All of my threads are related to my iron deficiency and trying to correct it so what's your point?
The point is that you are beyond help with your iron deficincy.
We have offered:
supplements
pills
iron rich water
cereals
foods naturally high in iron
etc.
But somehow none of these you are going to do. You are asking for help on an impossible topic because you don't have any intention of actually taking any advice given.
Then you blame it on your anxiety but then:
Are not taking personal control or personal responsibility for your own health and mental health.
Nothing we say at this point will make any difference or benefit to you whatsoever.
I prefer to correct this the natural way through food instead of through supplements. What's wrong with that? I'm still listening to all of your opinions and suggestions.
What cereals have been offered? I know the Multigrain Cheerios but most people were against me getting iron from cereal.
Did you Google online to see what foods are high in iron that you can eat? Did you?
Stop being logical!!!!0 -
BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »skullshank wrote: »
BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »AllOutof_Bubblegum wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »If I eat red meat for 5 days straight, will it correct this? How much of it would I have to eat?
You're acting like eating red meat is such a chore...like apparently everything else that might be good for your anemia.
And no. It won't "correct it", as anemia is not a one-cure condition. You'll have to continue eating red meat regularly. Have a tissue.
It's not a chore. I just have a fear of food poisoning and I get scared of red meat. I worded that wrong though. I meant like would I start feeling better?
So now you are afraid of red meat? But you have been asking about red meat. Oh brother.BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »kristinegift wrote: »OP, people have been trying to give you good advice, but you don't want to hear it if it doesn't mean you can eat cereal for all your iron needs. Honestly, if your anemia is that bad, you should prioritize your health over your aversion to pills/supplements. A little discomfort from taking a pill seems like a small price to pay for improved health and well-being. If 13 pages of responses hasn't proven it already, there's not some magic remedy to your problem, and you're either going to have to eat a *kitten* load of Cheerios or suck it up and do something out of your comfort zone to correct the deficiency.
Although that seems logical and I should prioritize my health, anxiety is illogical and doesn't work that way. If I were to be able to get the Flintstones down, I would freak out. I would pace the room and flail my hands and be trying desperately to get the taste out of my mouth. I'd probably freak out for 30 minutes to an hour and hopefully not stress so much that I'd throw it up. That's why I haven't taken the supplement.
This Can't Be Real
It is. People who don't have anxiety don't understand it.
Actually I have suffered from Anxiety. And I dealt with it. Like you should do and not make excuses.
I asked you a question, did you try and Google for iron rich foods?
I already have an appointment scheduled with a therapist who was recommended to me by my doctor. It's 2 months away. I've visited a couple therapists in the past who weren't any help. One of them said my anxiety was so bad, therapy wouldn't work for me. I can't go through this for 2 more months. My iron is too low and needs to get up now.
And yes I have googled iron rich foods. It doesn't tell me much. I need a diet of what to eat every day to achieve 200-250% and/or correct this anemia.
Let me guess... he said therapy ALONE wouldn't work for you, and recommended medication in addition to it.
And you refused.
It was a she. And no she didn't suggest medication. She just said my anxiety is so bad, the techniques she would help me with wouldn't work. She also had numerous bad reviews written on her. Some people said they were told the same thing.
So, being an adult, you saw that the first therapist was a QUACK, and found a new one, right? What did that one say?
The new one I haven't seen yet. The appointment is 2 months away but people don't believe me. Did you know it takes 3 months to get into an endocrinologist? Some specialists it takes time to see.
Where do you live?
I never want to move there.
I know some specialists do take a while to get in to see depending on how emergent your case is.
I had an unstable thyroid when I was referred to endocrinology. I was seen within a week.
My migraine specialist took three months for an appointment, though.
I can't imagine a therapist for a problem as severe as yours taking that long.
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BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »And the definition of a vegetarian is someone who eats little to no meat products. I ate little meat at the time so that still made me a vegetarian.
No, it really isn't.
Webster's Dictionary....
vegetarian
[vej-i-tair-ee-uh n]
Spell Syllables
Examples Word Origin
noun
1.
a person who does not eat or does not believe in eating meat, fish, fowl, or, in some cases, any food derived from animals, as eggs or cheese, but subsists on vegetables, fruits, nuts, grain, etc.
Well, if OP eats meat but doesn't believe in said meat, then technically she could be a vegetarian. "I have no faith in you, wiener!" OM NOM NOM
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I love hint of honey almond milk... It may help with your Cheerios
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BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »OK so... now the obvious solution of rather tasty flintstones chewables causes gagging? WTF. OK. Have we gotten from the OP why simple pills you don't chew, but just swallow with some water won't work?
Posted December 13th "Does Total cereal taste good?"
Posted January 6th "Can Flintstones chewables correct iron deficiency?"
Posted February 8th "Question for those of you familiar with Flintstones chewables?"
Posted March 12th "Does eating meat regularly correct iron deficiency?"
Please refer to her monthly threads for that answer.
OMG. Well never mind then. OP needs to have her head examined first before solving any other issues
All of my threads are related to my iron deficiency and trying to correct it so what's your point?
The point is that you are beyond help with your iron deficincy.
We have offered:
supplements
pills
iron rich water
cereals
foods naturally high in iron
etc.
But somehow none of these you are going to do. You are asking for help on an impossible topic because you don't have any intention of actually taking any advice given.
Then you blame it on your anxiety but then:
Are not taking personal control or personal responsibility for your own health and mental health.
Nothing we say at this point will make any difference or benefit to you whatsoever.
I prefer to correct this the natural way through food instead of through supplements. What's wrong with that? I'm still listening to all of your opinions and suggestions.
What cereals have been offered? I know the Multigrain Cheerios but most people were against me getting iron from cereal.
We've also recommended total cereal...
I don't like total cereal. And yes I actually tried it. I made a thread about it a while back asking if it would correct the anemia and once I tried it and saw I didn't like it, I knew it wasn't gonna work.
I wonder what you will post when you try the multi grain cheerios and dislike them0 -
Hi OP,
I have read through all these pages. I understand that you have severe anxiety, I am glad to see that you recognize that your fears are illogical. I have suffered with severe anxiety myself for many years. Realizing that my fears are illogical, I really made an effort to educate myself with reading and in discussions with my Doctor. I understand and sympathize with you in your fears, but, in the end, you need to do what is right for your health.
When my anxiety was so bad that my life was to the point where it really wasn't normal anymore, I bit the bullet and took medication. I realize for some people with anxiety, just the fear of taking a pill makes anxiety worse. I was actually like that. I trusted my Doctor, I asked lot's of questions and I got the help. Please remember that a lot of the fears that you have now are because you are not well. Take care and get the help that you need.0 -
BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »
Then do that. But wait, you said you fear food poisoning0 -
BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »And the definition of a vegetarian is someone who eats little to no meat products. I ate little meat at the time so that still made me a vegetarian.
No, it really isn't.
Webster's Dictionary....
vegetarian
[vej-i-tair-ee-uh n]
Spell Syllables
Examples Word Origin
noun
1.
a person who does not eat or does not believe in eating meat, fish, fowl, or, in some cases, any food derived from animals, as eggs or cheese, but subsists on vegetables, fruits, nuts, grain, etc.
Okay so you're right. But I did not eat a lot of meat for years. I never ate red meat besides hotdogs. And I would just eat turkey/ham sandwiches.
Are you under the impression that you can be a vegetarian by avoiding red meat while eating other kinds of meat?0 -
mamapeach910 wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »skullshank wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »AllOutof_Bubblegum wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »If I eat red meat for 5 days straight, will it correct this? How much of it would I have to eat?
You're acting like eating red meat is such a chore...like apparently everything else that might be good for your anemia.
And no. It won't "correct it", as anemia is not a one-cure condition. You'll have to continue eating red meat regularly. Have a tissue.
It's not a chore. I just have a fear of food poisoning and I get scared of red meat. I worded that wrong though. I meant like would I start feeling better?
So now you are afraid of red meat? But you have been asking about red meat. Oh brother.BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »kristinegift wrote: »OP, people have been trying to give you good advice, but you don't want to hear it if it doesn't mean you can eat cereal for all your iron needs. Honestly, if your anemia is that bad, you should prioritize your health over your aversion to pills/supplements. A little discomfort from taking a pill seems like a small price to pay for improved health and well-being. If 13 pages of responses hasn't proven it already, there's not some magic remedy to your problem, and you're either going to have to eat a *kitten* load of Cheerios or suck it up and do something out of your comfort zone to correct the deficiency.
Although that seems logical and I should prioritize my health, anxiety is illogical and doesn't work that way. If I were to be able to get the Flintstones down, I would freak out. I would pace the room and flail my hands and be trying desperately to get the taste out of my mouth. I'd probably freak out for 30 minutes to an hour and hopefully not stress so much that I'd throw it up. That's why I haven't taken the supplement.
This Can't Be Real
It is. People who don't have anxiety don't understand it.
Actually I have suffered from Anxiety. And I dealt with it. Like you should do and not make excuses.
I asked you a question, did you try and Google for iron rich foods?
I already have an appointment scheduled with a therapist who was recommended to me by my doctor. It's 2 months away. I've visited a couple therapists in the past who weren't any help. One of them said my anxiety was so bad, therapy wouldn't work for me. I can't go through this for 2 more months. My iron is too low and needs to get up now.
And yes I have googled iron rich foods. It doesn't tell me much. I need a diet of what to eat every day to achieve 200-250% and/or correct this anemia.
Let me guess... he said therapy ALONE wouldn't work for you, and recommended medication in addition to it.
And you refused.
It was a she. And no she didn't suggest medication. She just said my anxiety is so bad, the techniques she would help me with wouldn't work. She also had numerous bad reviews written on her. Some people said they were told the same thing.
So, being an adult, you saw that the first therapist was a QUACK, and found a new one, right? What did that one say?
The new one I haven't seen yet. The appointment is 2 months away but people don't believe me. Did you know it takes 3 months to get into an endocrinologist? Some specialists it takes time to see.
Where do you live?
I never want to move there.
I know some specialists do take a while to get in to see depending on how emergent your case is.
I had an unstable thyroid when I was referred to endocrinology. I was seen within a week.
My migraine specialist took three months for an appointment, though.
I can't imagine a therapist for a problem as severe as yours taking that long.
It could also be an insurance issue. Sometimes it takes a while to be permitted to see a specialist. I also imagine that OP might be more honest online in an anonymous forum than talking to a doctor in person. So perhaps the severity of her case is unknown to the proper people.0 -
BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »marissafit06 wrote: »
I recommended this to OP two months ago and she refused to try it. I love spatone.
I've read it tastes like blood. I can't handle that.
it's.... IRON!
Flintstones chewables have iron and don't taste like blood. Meat has iron and doesn't taste like blood. Fortified cereals have iron and don't taste like blood.
::Note to self - invent blood-flavored chewable vitamins::0 -
mamapeach910 wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »skullshank wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »AllOutof_Bubblegum wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »If I eat red meat for 5 days straight, will it correct this? How much of it would I have to eat?
You're acting like eating red meat is such a chore...like apparently everything else that might be good for your anemia.
And no. It won't "correct it", as anemia is not a one-cure condition. You'll have to continue eating red meat regularly. Have a tissue.
It's not a chore. I just have a fear of food poisoning and I get scared of red meat. I worded that wrong though. I meant like would I start feeling better?
So now you are afraid of red meat? But you have been asking about red meat. Oh brother.BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »kristinegift wrote: »OP, people have been trying to give you good advice, but you don't want to hear it if it doesn't mean you can eat cereal for all your iron needs. Honestly, if your anemia is that bad, you should prioritize your health over your aversion to pills/supplements. A little discomfort from taking a pill seems like a small price to pay for improved health and well-being. If 13 pages of responses hasn't proven it already, there's not some magic remedy to your problem, and you're either going to have to eat a *kitten* load of Cheerios or suck it up and do something out of your comfort zone to correct the deficiency.
Although that seems logical and I should prioritize my health, anxiety is illogical and doesn't work that way. If I were to be able to get the Flintstones down, I would freak out. I would pace the room and flail my hands and be trying desperately to get the taste out of my mouth. I'd probably freak out for 30 minutes to an hour and hopefully not stress so much that I'd throw it up. That's why I haven't taken the supplement.
This Can't Be Real
It is. People who don't have anxiety don't understand it.
Actually I have suffered from Anxiety. And I dealt with it. Like you should do and not make excuses.
I asked you a question, did you try and Google for iron rich foods?
I already have an appointment scheduled with a therapist who was recommended to me by my doctor. It's 2 months away. I've visited a couple therapists in the past who weren't any help. One of them said my anxiety was so bad, therapy wouldn't work for me. I can't go through this for 2 more months. My iron is too low and needs to get up now.
And yes I have googled iron rich foods. It doesn't tell me much. I need a diet of what to eat every day to achieve 200-250% and/or correct this anemia.
Let me guess... he said therapy ALONE wouldn't work for you, and recommended medication in addition to it.
And you refused.
It was a she. And no she didn't suggest medication. She just said my anxiety is so bad, the techniques she would help me with wouldn't work. She also had numerous bad reviews written on her. Some people said they were told the same thing.
So, being an adult, you saw that the first therapist was a QUACK, and found a new one, right? What did that one say?
The new one I haven't seen yet. The appointment is 2 months away but people don't believe me. Did you know it takes 3 months to get into an endocrinologist? Some specialists it takes time to see.
Where do you live?
I never want to move there.
I know some specialists do take a while to get in to see depending on how emergent your case is.
I had an unstable thyroid when I was referred to endocrinology. I was seen within a week.
My migraine specialist took three months for an appointment, though.
I can't imagine a therapist for a problem as severe as yours taking that long.
I've been to four... They don't. Especially since they don't require insurancemarissafit06 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »skullshank wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »AllOutof_Bubblegum wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »If I eat red meat for 5 days straight, will it correct this? How much of it would I have to eat?
You're acting like eating red meat is such a chore...like apparently everything else that might be good for your anemia.
And no. It won't "correct it", as anemia is not a one-cure condition. You'll have to continue eating red meat regularly. Have a tissue.
It's not a chore. I just have a fear of food poisoning and I get scared of red meat. I worded that wrong though. I meant like would I start feeling better?
So now you are afraid of red meat? But you have been asking about red meat. Oh brother.BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »BlondeBeauty5 wrote: »kristinegift wrote: »OP, people have been trying to give you good advice, but you don't want to hear it if it doesn't mean you can eat cereal for all your iron needs. Honestly, if your anemia is that bad, you should prioritize your health over your aversion to pills/supplements. A little discomfort from taking a pill seems like a small price to pay for improved health and well-being. If 13 pages of responses hasn't proven it already, there's not some magic remedy to your problem, and you're either going to have to eat a *kitten* load of Cheerios or suck it up and do something out of your comfort zone to correct the deficiency.
Although that seems logical and I should prioritize my health, anxiety is illogical and doesn't work that way. If I were to be able to get the Flintstones down, I would freak out. I would pace the room and flail my hands and be trying desperately to get the taste out of my mouth. I'd probably freak out for 30 minutes to an hour and hopefully not stress so much that I'd throw it up. That's why I haven't taken the supplement.
This Can't Be Real
It is. People who don't have anxiety don't understand it.
Actually I have suffered from Anxiety. And I dealt with it. Like you should do and not make excuses.
I asked you a question, did you try and Google for iron rich foods?
I already have an appointment scheduled with a therapist who was recommended to me by my doctor. It's 2 months away. I've visited a couple therapists in the past who weren't any help. One of them said my anxiety was so bad, therapy wouldn't work for me. I can't go through this for 2 more months. My iron is too low and needs to get up now.
And yes I have googled iron rich foods. It doesn't tell me much. I need a diet of what to eat every day to achieve 200-250% and/or correct this anemia.
Let me guess... he said therapy ALONE wouldn't work for you, and recommended medication in addition to it.
And you refused.
It was a she. And no she didn't suggest medication. She just said my anxiety is so bad, the techniques she would help me with wouldn't work. She also had numerous bad reviews written on her. Some people said they were told the same thing.
So, being an adult, you saw that the first therapist was a QUACK, and found a new one, right? What did that one say?
The new one I haven't seen yet. The appointment is 2 months away but people don't believe me. Did you know it takes 3 months to get into an endocrinologist? Some specialists it takes time to see.
Where do you live?
I never want to move there.
I know some specialists do take a while to get in to see depending on how emergent your case is.
I had an unstable thyroid when I was referred to endocrinology. I was seen within a week.
My migraine specialist took three months for an appointment, though.
I can't imagine a therapist for a problem as severe as yours taking that long.
It could also be an insurance issue. Sometimes it takes a while to be permitted to see a specialist. I also imagine that OP might be more honest online in an anonymous forum than talking to a doctor in person. So perhaps the severity of her case is unknown to the proper people.
I've been to four therapists. All insured. None took months to get into. You can also pick your own therapists so like... She could have picked another one when she was told it will take two months. Sounds like excuses to me. And seeing one for anxiety isn't a specialist either.0
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