"You can eat whaver you want, as long as you eat at a deficit" is true, but it's garbage advice.
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Chef_Barbell wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »annacole94 wrote: »I'm sorry I mentioned pizza in my initial reply. I had literally finished a piece of Domino's cheese pizza that my kid started and had nothing but regrets for that.
Good pizza can be worth it and easy to make a balanced meal. I maintain that domino's is gross and have no plans to try novelty crust to test that theory.
Newbies need to buy some big girl panties* and not be quite so thin skinned.
*both genders welcome to try them on and see if it helps.
Domino's doesn't even qualify as pizza.
Why not? I managed a Domino's pizza for years and we used the same things I use to make my pizzas at home. I never understood fast food shaming.
Cause Domino's doesn't have anything that's even close to my homemade caramelized onions, honey chèvre, smoked almonds, and drizzle of balsamic reduction on top of Alton Brown's pizza dough crust pizza.
That does not look appetizing at all, but that's the beauty of differences. What you may like I may not but I will not say that it isn't food or any of the other things I have heard about various fast food places.
Looks amazingly delicious to me, but one must admit it's not the best photo. Food photography is an art.
Don't make me cry.
I took it in a rush with my phone because my proper camera had a dead battery. I have a photography degree and I wanted to do food photography, but my college didn't offer that 'specialty'. It is indeed an art, a hair pulling, tantrum throwing, crying in a corner art. 
Gotta love knowing that some of those ice cream photos are actually instant mashed potatoes and Crisco. LOL 7 -
diannethegeek wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Gosh I suck at rage quitting.
I tried to flounce once. It didn't stick.
Me too -- heh!3 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »annacole94 wrote: »I'm sorry I mentioned pizza in my initial reply. I had literally finished a piece of Domino's cheese pizza that my kid started and had nothing but regrets for that.
Good pizza can be worth it and easy to make a balanced meal. I maintain that domino's is gross and have no plans to try novelty crust to test that theory.
Newbies need to buy some big girl panties* and not be quite so thin skinned.
*both genders welcome to try them on and see if it helps.
Domino's doesn't even qualify as pizza.
Why not? I managed a Domino's pizza for years and we used the same things I use to make my pizzas at home. I never understood fast food shaming.
Cause Domino's doesn't have anything that's even close to my homemade caramelized onions, honey chèvre, smoked almonds, and drizzle of balsamic reduction on top of Alton Brown's pizza dough crust pizza.
That does not look appetizing at all, but that's the beauty of differences. What you may like I may not but I will not say that it isn't food or any of the other things I have heard about various fast food places.
Looks amazingly delicious to me, but one must admit it's not the best photo. Food photography is an art.
So is cooking lol.
Indeed. But any dish can be made to look unappetizing if it's photographed poorly, including yours. And nearly all amateur food photography is poor.
Or it could just be poorly cooked. How does one really know? *shrug* Either way not my cup of tea.
One doesn't really know even if it's photographed to look amazingly delicious. The food in a lot of commercial food photography is often barely even cooked, and may not be what it appears at all. http://mentalfloss.com/article/30195/11-ways-advertisers-make-food-look-delicious
Sorry...Wynterbourne wrote: »Don't make me cry.
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Wynterbourne wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »annacole94 wrote: »I'm sorry I mentioned pizza in my initial reply. I had literally finished a piece of Domino's cheese pizza that my kid started and had nothing but regrets for that.
Good pizza can be worth it and easy to make a balanced meal. I maintain that domino's is gross and have no plans to try novelty crust to test that theory.
Newbies need to buy some big girl panties* and not be quite so thin skinned.
*both genders welcome to try them on and see if it helps.
Domino's doesn't even qualify as pizza.
Why not? I managed a Domino's pizza for years and we used the same things I use to make my pizzas at home. I never understood fast food shaming.
Cause Domino's doesn't have anything that's even close to my homemade caramelized onions, honey chèvre, smoked almonds, and drizzle of balsamic reduction on top of Alton Brown's pizza dough crust pizza.
That does not look appetizing at all, but that's the beauty of differences. What you may like I may not but I will not say that it isn't food or any of the other things I have heard about various fast food places.
Looks amazingly delicious to me, but one must admit it's not the best photo. Food photography is an art.
Don't make me cry. I took it in a rush with my phone because my proper camera had a dead battery. I have a photography degree and I wanted to do food photography, but my college didn't offer that 'specialty'. It is indeed an art, a hair pulling, tantrum throwing, crying in a corner art. Gotta love knowing that some of those ice cream photos are actually instant mashed potatoes and Crisco. LOL
Odd toppings but otherwise it looked good and Id keep the onions lol1 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »annacole94 wrote: »I'm sorry I mentioned pizza in my initial reply. I had literally finished a piece of Domino's cheese pizza that my kid started and had nothing but regrets for that.
Good pizza can be worth it and easy to make a balanced meal. I maintain that domino's is gross and have no plans to try novelty crust to test that theory.
Newbies need to buy some big girl panties* and not be quite so thin skinned.
*both genders welcome to try them on and see if it helps.
Domino's doesn't even qualify as pizza.
Why not? I managed a Domino's pizza for years and we used the same things I use to make my pizzas at home. I never understood fast food shaming.
Cause Domino's doesn't have anything that's even close to my homemade caramelized onions, honey chèvre, smoked almonds, and drizzle of balsamic reduction on top of Alton Brown's pizza dough crust pizza.
That does not look appetizing at all, but that's the beauty of differences. What you may like I may not but I will not say that it isn't food or any of the other things I have heard about various fast food places.
Looks amazingly delicious to me, but one must admit it's not the best photo. Food photography is an art.
So is cooking lol.
Indeed. But any dish can be made to look unappetizing if it's photographed poorly, including yours. And nearly all amateur food photography is poor.
Or it could just be poorly cooked. How does one really know? *shrug* Either way not my cup of tea.
One doesn't really know even if it's photographed to look amazingly delicious. The food in a lot of commercial food photography is often barely even cooked, and may not be what it appears at all. http://mentalfloss.com/article/30195/11-ways-advertisers-make-food-look-delicious
Sorry...Wynterbourne wrote: »Don't make me cry.
Not sure how me not liking the food turned into food photography. If that pizza was taken with the best photography it still wouldn't be my cup of tea. And that's ok, not everything is for everyone.2 -
WinoGelato wrote: »Gosh I suck at rage quitting.
#FlouncerGelato
eta: As if I don't know better, Dianne beat me to the joke much earlier...3 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Gosh I suck at rage quitting.
I tried to flounce once. It didn't stick.
Me too -- heh!
No one goes anywhere. It's all about ME and I still have maintenance to get through so buckle up people!
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Chef_Barbell wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »annacole94 wrote: »I'm sorry I mentioned pizza in my initial reply. I had literally finished a piece of Domino's cheese pizza that my kid started and had nothing but regrets for that.
Good pizza can be worth it and easy to make a balanced meal. I maintain that domino's is gross and have no plans to try novelty crust to test that theory.
Newbies need to buy some big girl panties* and not be quite so thin skinned.
*both genders welcome to try them on and see if it helps.
Domino's doesn't even qualify as pizza.
Why not? I managed a Domino's pizza for years and we used the same things I use to make my pizzas at home. I never understood fast food shaming.
Cause Domino's doesn't have anything that's even close to my homemade caramelized onions, honey chèvre, smoked almonds, and drizzle of balsamic reduction on top of Alton Brown's pizza dough crust pizza.
That does not look appetizing at all, but that's the beauty of differences. What you may like I may not but I will not say that it isn't food or any of the other things I have heard about various fast food places.
Looks amazingly delicious to me, but one must admit it's not the best photo. Food photography is an art.
So is cooking lol.
Indeed. But any dish can be made to look unappetizing if it's photographed poorly, including yours. And nearly all amateur food photography is poor.
Or it could just be poorly cooked. How does one really know? *shrug* Either way not my cup of tea.
One doesn't really know even if it's photographed to look amazingly delicious. The food in a lot of commercial food photography is often barely even cooked, and may not be what it appears at all. http://mentalfloss.com/article/30195/11-ways-advertisers-make-food-look-delicious
Sorry...Wynterbourne wrote: »Don't make me cry.
Not sure how me not liking the food turned into food photography. If that pizza was taken with the best photography it still wouldn't be my cup of tea. And that's ok, not everything is for everyone.
Well, the main conversation is going around in circles, so a diversion here or there is inevitable.2 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »annacole94 wrote: »I'm sorry I mentioned pizza in my initial reply. I had literally finished a piece of Domino's cheese pizza that my kid started and had nothing but regrets for that.
Good pizza can be worth it and easy to make a balanced meal. I maintain that domino's is gross and have no plans to try novelty crust to test that theory.
Newbies need to buy some big girl panties* and not be quite so thin skinned.
*both genders welcome to try them on and see if it helps.
Domino's doesn't even qualify as pizza.
Why not? I managed a Domino's pizza for years and we used the same things I use to make my pizzas at home. I never understood fast food shaming.
Cause Domino's doesn't have anything that's even close to my homemade caramelized onions, honey chèvre, smoked almonds, and drizzle of balsamic reduction on top of Alton Brown's pizza dough crust pizza.
That does not look appetizing at all, but that's the beauty of differences. What you may like I may not but I will not say that it isn't food or any of the other things I have heard about various fast food places.
Looks amazingly delicious to me, but one must admit it's not the best photo. Food photography is an art.
So is cooking lol.
Indeed. But any dish can be made to look unappetizing if it's photographed poorly, including yours. And nearly all amateur food photography is poor.
Or it could just be poorly cooked. How does one really know? *shrug* Either way not my cup of tea.
One doesn't really know even if it's photographed to look amazingly delicious. The food in a lot of commercial food photography is often barely even cooked, and may not be what it appears at all. http://mentalfloss.com/article/30195/11-ways-advertisers-make-food-look-delicious
Sorry...Wynterbourne wrote: »Don't make me cry.
Not sure how me not liking the food turned into food photography. If that pizza was taken with the best photography it still wouldn't be my cup of tea. And that's ok, not everything is for everyone.
Well, the main conversation is going around in circles, so a diversion here or there is inevitable.
Well then it must be time for cat gifs...
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Garbage advice:
Don't eat too much garbage, or you may end up resembling this cat.
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I too tried to flounce. But, being an over achiever, I insisted on combining it with a hair flip and my stupid tiara kept sliding off.
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southernoregongrape wrote: »I too tried to flounce. But, being an over achiever, I insisted on combining it with a hair flip and my stupid tiara kept sliding off.
My diamond studded heels got all caught up in my train and I tripped down the stairs I meant to flounce on. Very awkward.4 -
leanjogreen18 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Gosh I suck at rage quitting.
I tried to flounce once. It didn't stick.
Me too -- heh!
No one goes anywhere. It's all about ME and I still have maintenance to get through so buckle up people!
Not true. It is all about WE. And I am indeed using we in the royal sense. 3 -
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MontyMuttland wrote: »You both illustrate my point perfectly.
If your average pizza actually was just bread, cheese, veggies then you'd be some way to having a bit of nutrition - but they're not.
Try reading the ingredients list on some pizza packaging, you'll see the list of stuff going in them is somewhat longer. Then read the nutritional information about those pizzas and see just how "healthy" they are.
The home-made pizza does sound a ton better, specially the amount of protein there compared to ready-made ones. But I'll make a stab at two slices being what, two sixths of the pizza maybe?
I've been a fat person remember, fat people don't eat two slices of pizza, they eat whole pizzas. And so do most ordinary people as well. Do you order half pizzas or quarter pizzas in a restaurant? Nope, didn't think so.
So yeah, two-sixths of a pizza for 524 calories ain't bad, but that's knocking on the door of 1600 calories for the whole pizza.
And guess who is eating the whole pizza?
Yep, just about everyone...
I had to stop at this post and answer it before moving on with this thread.
Pizza packaging? Uh, yeah, I rarely eat frozen pizza, I get mine fresh from the pizzeria. Flour for the crust, tomato sauce, cheese, veggies, pineapple (yum), jalapenos, sausage and pepperoni. How is that unhealthy? The only thing about pizza is that it doesn't have enough protein, so I have a huge piece of baked chicken breast that day to round it out.
"Fat people don't eat two slices of pizza, they eat whole pizzas". What world do you live in where "just about everyone" is eating a whole pizza?!? I was obese, and even then I never ate more than three pieces of pizza. Now I generally eat two or two and a half, depending on how it's sliced. I order a large from Pizza Hut, and it feeds me for three meals. I did this the entire time I was losing weight on a 1200 calorie limit. I plan my other meals those days to make sure I get in my nutrients. Personally, I don't think I know ANYBODY that eats a whole pizza by themselves. I sure as heck know that none of my family members do, and I eat pizza with them regularly. They never eat more than two pieces, and usually have a salad with it as well.
Please stop generalizing about what other people do - you are completely wrong in your assumptions. And you know what they say about assuming . . .
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In the interests of science, I'm going to go off and look up some frozen pizza and see what the ingredients lists are. BRB.4
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Yes, very likely. New members will not know what you're thinking of though, nor will we have seen all of those threads even if we did a lot of background reading. So we'd read it differently.lemurcat12 wrote: »The problem is that we are reading it in context, thinking of the threads in which we've given such advice.
I might be wrong that there's some connection between what answers people are given and whether they are confused. But I have seen people who actually are confused - or at least, they're eating what seems like a rather unhealthy diet. Whether that's because they're confused or because they don't care as long as they're losing weight, it's hard to say.Also, you aren't saying that YOU were confused. You are assuming that other people (much more ignorant than you, I guess) might be confused. Maybe that assumption is problematic?
Fwiw, I was confused by what a number of posts (elsewhere on the board) meant. They certainly sounded like it truly made no difference what someone ate, as long as they met their calorie goals.
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kshama2001 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »Secondly, can someone tell me which chains across the globe add exactly what to their products (and proven, not hearsay) that is so evil and makes a burger from McDs worse than a burger made at home, all other ingredients being equal.
Until 2012, many fast food chains added 'pink slime' to their burgers. http://www.snopes.com/food/prepare/msm.asp
I stopped eating fast food burgers after seeing the ammonia factory in 'Food, Inc.' I am not interested in eating meat that is processed in such a way that it needs ammonia to make it safe. "This is not a health issue," said Bill Marler, a prominent food safety lawyer. "This is an 'I'm grossed out by this' issue."Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Well I think all ingredients not being equal is what makes homemade burgers better. Better ingredients = better taste.
I agree with you in general that homemade burgers are better than fast food burgers. Had a bite of my OH's BK burger due to threads like this and didn't even seem like the same food to me.
However, in the interest of buying humanely raised beef, I have experimented with various brands of hamburger that comes vacuum-sealed and they range from "can only use in enchiladas" to "am going to give the rest of the package to my mother to feed to her dog."
So, I have to drive a little farther to find hamburger that is both humanely raised and freshly ground, which makes a big difference in taste.
And if I want to drive farther and spend more money I will get a burger made from wagyu ground beef. OMG, is this delish!
Boneless lean beef trimmings (i.e. "pink slime") was also used at the same time in ground beef you would buy at the grocery store. Sure, you could also buy fresh ground beef from the butcher, but that's not really an "all other ingredients being equal" kind of comparison.3 -
Yes, very likely. New members will not know what you're thinking of though, nor will we have seen all of those threads even if we did a lot of background reading. So we'd read it differently.lemurcat12 wrote: »The problem is that we are reading it in context, thinking of the threads in which we've given such advice.
I might be wrong that there's some connection between what answers people are given and whether they are confused. But I have seen people who actually are confused - or at least, they're eating what seems like a rather unhealthy diet. Whether that's because they're confused or because they don't care as long as they're losing weight, it's hard to say.Also, you aren't saying that YOU were confused. You are assuming that other people (much more ignorant than you, I guess) might be confused. Maybe that assumption is problematic?
Fwiw, I was confused by what a number of posts (elsewhere on the board) meant. They certainly sounded like it truly made no difference what someone ate, as long as they met their calorie goals.
What? :huh:2
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