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What are your unpopular opinions about health / fitness?
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Christine_72 wrote: »Lourdesong wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »I find it somewhat amazing that a guy that had no idea his wife was pregnant until she gave birth thinks he's qualified to argue with women (some of whom have given birth) regarding pregnancy.
This has me a bit gobsmacked as well. I'm getting the impression that there might be a weird sense of proprietary pride in his wife not having gained any weight during her pregnancy (instead of becoming - what was it? Oh, yeah a "piggy") going on here and that that is something that's healthy/desirable/to be strived for in a pregnant wife?
tl;dr: fatshaming in a humble brag disguise
PS: If it matters, I've given birth. I gained weight. I had a healthy daughter. I lost weight. Happy end of story.
Yes this is what it smells like to me too.
Related, I don't know if my opinion is popular or unpopular but I do know my OB is of the same opinion: That women who claim to not know they were pregnant until they went into labor are full of baloney.
How could these women not feel their babies kicking and moving around inside them?? There were many times during my pregnancies where my bare stomach looked like there was an alien in there trying to escape!
I'm wondering about this too! I just cannot imagine. Maybe their babies aren't as active in utero?1 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Lourdesong wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »I find it somewhat amazing that a guy that had no idea his wife was pregnant until she gave birth thinks he's qualified to argue with women (some of whom have given birth) regarding pregnancy.
This has me a bit gobsmacked as well. I'm getting the impression that there might be a weird sense of proprietary pride in his wife not having gained any weight during her pregnancy (instead of becoming - what was it? Oh, yeah a "piggy") going on here and that that is something that's healthy/desirable/to be strived for in a pregnant wife?
tl;dr: fatshaming in a humble brag disguise
PS: If it matters, I've given birth. I gained weight. I had a healthy daughter. I lost weight. Happy end of story.
Yes this is what it smells like to me too.
Related, I don't know if my opinion is popular or unpopular but I do know my OB is of the same opinion: That women who claim to not know they were pregnant until they went into labor are full of baloney.
How could these women not feel their babies kicking and moving around inside them?? There were many times during my pregnancies where my bare stomach looked like there was an alien in there trying to escape!
I'm wondering about this too! I just cannot imagine. Maybe their babies aren't as active in utero?
Laid back and chilled bubs you say1 -
Motorsheen wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »Motorsheen wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »The argument of "meant to" is a weird one. Humans are known for their adaptability. What was that thing that the men adapted to on the Lewis & Clark expedition? Camas root? The first time the ate it they were sick, but with it being the only food source available, they adapted to it (or something like that).
What we are "meant to" do, if anything, is adapt to foods in our environment. It seems very odd to me, if you're going to ascribe to a philosophy of being "meant to" eat certain things, that you'd be plopped into an environment with certain foods not being meant to eat them. Or to better state the reality, given the ability to travel from one environment to another, and having a system which is hardwired to only survive in one's native region.
It just doesn't make sense.
Not to speak of the fact that absolutely nothing we eat today is the way it was originally in nature, so nothing available is the way it would have been "meant to" be.
It's still possible to find those foods. It just takes a lot of time, money and effort and most people don't have the means to do so.
Begs the question : how to provide affordable and nutritious food to the masses?
(I don't have the answers)
Give them a ride to the grocery store?
I reckon they can ride on my handlebars down to the farmer's market. ...
Well that's one less person without access to affordable and nutritious food, then.3 -
Regarding women and pregnancy weight gain, I think it's fair to say this. There are a lot of women out there who gain a lot more than what they really need to. Regardless of whatever amount of weight that is, there are a lot of women who gain excessively.6
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Chef_Barbell wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Lourdesong wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »I find it somewhat amazing that a guy that had no idea his wife was pregnant until she gave birth thinks he's qualified to argue with women (some of whom have given birth) regarding pregnancy.
This has me a bit gobsmacked as well. I'm getting the impression that there might be a weird sense of proprietary pride in his wife not having gained any weight during her pregnancy (instead of becoming - what was it? Oh, yeah a "piggy") going on here and that that is something that's healthy/desirable/to be strived for in a pregnant wife?
tl;dr: fatshaming in a humble brag disguise
PS: If it matters, I've given birth. I gained weight. I had a healthy daughter. I lost weight. Happy end of story.
Yes this is what it smells like to me too.
Related, I don't know if my opinion is popular or unpopular but I do know my OB is of the same opinion: That women who claim to not know they were pregnant until they went into labor are full of baloney.
How could these women not feel their babies kicking and moving around inside them?? There were many times during my pregnancies where my bare stomach looked like there was an alien in there trying to escape!
I'm wondering about this too! I just cannot imagine. Maybe their babies aren't as active in utero?
Well, the guy with the, "I have kidney stones, no oops it's a baby," wife said she didn't gain much weight. It's likely that baby was conserving energy due to being hangry.12 -
ForecasterJason wrote: »Regarding women and pregnancy weight gain, I think it's fair to say this. There are a lot of women out there who gain a lot more than what they really need to. Regardless of whatever amount of weight that is, there are a lot of women who gain excessively.
Uh, don't.12 -
Lourdesong wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »I find it somewhat amazing that a guy that had no idea his wife was pregnant until she gave birth thinks he's qualified to argue with women (some of whom have given birth) regarding pregnancy.
This has me a bit gobsmacked as well. I'm getting the impression that there might be a weird sense of proprietary pride in his wife not having gained any weight during her pregnancy (instead of becoming - what was it? Oh, yeah a "piggy") going on here and that that is something that's healthy/desirable/to be strived for in a pregnant wife?
tl;dr: fatshaming in a humble brag disguise
PS: If it matters, I've given birth. I gained weight. I had a healthy daughter. I lost weight. Happy end of story.
Yes this is what it smells like to me too.
Related, I don't know if my opinion is popular or unpopular but I do know my OB is of the same opinion: That women who claim to not know they were pregnant until they went into labor are full of baloney.
A friend of a friend gave birth part way through a round the world trip as she had no idea she was pregnant. She was quite overweight, suffered pcos, had always had very irregular periods, suffered digestive problems (all things that masked her pregnancy)... They were not prepared for a baby whatsoever!1 -
ForecasterJason wrote: »Regarding women and pregnancy weight gain, I think it's fair to say this. There are a lot of women out there who gain a lot more than what they really need to. Regardless of whatever amount of weight that is, there are a lot of women who gain excessively.
I gained a lot more than i needed to. I used the excuse of eating for two, It was a blissful 9mths of eating whatever i wanted, whenever i wanted. I do not know where the raging appetite and severe cravings came from, as i was thin and definitely no where near overweight before i got pregnant, my appetite went back down to normal after she was born. My appetite was normal and i had no cravings with my 2nd baby, and therefore put on an acceptable amount of weight.2 -
ForecasterJason wrote: »Regarding women and pregnancy weight gain, I think it's fair to say this. There are a lot of women out there who gain a lot more than what they really need to. Regardless of whatever amount of weight that is, there are a lot of women who gain excessively.
I'm really loving how all these men who have never been pregnant, never will be pregnant, have no clue how it feels to deal with pregnancy hormones all know what a cop-out it is for pregnant women to gain excessive weight.25 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »dancefit2015 wrote: »I don't believe humans were necessarily meant to eat grain nor dairy... Maybe some have adapted but I know many people and myself feel terrible after eating any gluten or dairy.
You do realize that many grains don't contain gluten?
I have celiac disease, but plenty of grains and I are very good friends.
Yes I do, I meant gluten. I eat rice and oats and feel just fine.1 -
I am not religious. When I said "meant to" think of it as "made for" as in humans just aren't able to digest it properly... not as in some magical being in the sky said we shouldn't.
And yes I know not all grains contain gluten, that was an error, I even specifically said gluten in my first post.
There are many people who can eat gluten and dairy and feel fine but that doesn't mean that it is all that healthy for you. In fact 3/4 people are lactose intolerant and many without knowing. Most just aren't born with the enzymes to properly digest these foods. I didn't even know that I was intolerant until I cut them out of my diet for a short time and was then unable eat them again without side affects. However, when looking back, it explains a lot of unexplained abdominal pain that I had before I knew what it was.
Also, just because I believe that we aren't made to eat these foods doesn't I don't think anyone should eat them... I still occasionally do because they are hard to resist. I was just stating that I don't think humans digest these foods well.1 -
dancefit2015 wrote: »I don't believe humans were necessarily meant to eat grain nor dairy... Maybe some have adapted but I know many people and myself feel terrible after eating any gluten or dairy.
Humans are not meant to travel in space and we still do...
And that is that same how...???0 -
dancefit2015 wrote: »I am not religious. When I said "meant to" think of it as "made for" as in humans just aren't able to digest it properly... not as in some magical being in the sky said we shouldn't.
And yes I know not all grains contain gluten, that was an error, I even specifically said gluten in my first post.
There are many people who can eat gluten and dairy and feel fine but that doesn't mean that it is all that healthy for you. In fact 3/4 people are lactose intolerant and many without knowing. Most just aren't born with the enzymes to properly digest these foods. I didn't even know that I was intolerant until I cut them out of my diet for a short time and was then unable eat them again without side affects. However, when looking back, it explains a lot of unexplained abdominal pain that I had before I knew what it was.
Also, just because I believe that we aren't made to eat these foods doesn't I don't think anyone should eat them... I still occasionally do because they are hard to resist. I was just stating that I don't think humans digest these foods well.
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Idancefit2015 wrote: »dancefit2015 wrote: »I don't believe humans were necessarily meant to eat grain nor dairy... Maybe some have adapted but I know many people and myself feel terrible after eating any gluten or dairy.
Humans are not meant to travel in space and we still do...
And that is that same how...???
If we were not meant to do it than we should not, right?5 -
My unpopular opinions about health / fitness is about caloric restriction for life (CRON)0
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I don't understand, I'm probably missing something.0 -
"skinnier is sexier" How skinny are we talking? I like a little meat on my man.
I mean...:
Oh, you know what I meant.7 -
cmriverside wrote: »
"skinnier is sexier" How skinny are we talking? I like a little meat on my man.
I mean...:
Oh, you know what I meant.
Totally. You mean bacon right?6 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »Motorsheen wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »Motorsheen wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »I think pregnant women should do whatever it takes to have a healthy baby and maintain their sanity. Making a human ain't a walk in the park.
Hahahahaha. ... you used the words "women" and "sanity" together in the same sentence.
That is pure comedy gold right there, it damn sure is.
Right. Because every woman is the same. :noway:
Oh wait... what am I doing here? I again should be in the kitchen. Sorry!
Lighten up, baby; I was clowning.
I'm not your baby.
thanks for being a good sport
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Idancefit2015 wrote: »dancefit2015 wrote: »I don't believe humans were necessarily meant to eat grain nor dairy... Maybe some have adapted but I know many people and myself feel terrible after eating any gluten or dairy.
Humans are not meant to travel in space and we still do...
And that is that same how...???
If we were not meant to do it than we should not, right?
I never said that people are wrong for eating it. I really don't care who eats what but this is an opinion board and I was adding mine... that humans aren't made for digesting gluten and dairy. If you do eat it that's your choice and that's fine. I eat it sometimes as well. But gluten is an inflammatory food so if you are sick of having aches and pains that don't seem to have an explanation, you might try cutting out gluten. And if you have issues with acne, bloating, and other hormonal issues, you might try cutting out dairy.
I am not a scientist, just a girl with an opinion... that's what this page is for right? OPINIONS? didn't realize that mine was so personally offensive -_-3 -
dancefit2015 wrote: »I don't believe humans were necessarily meant to eat grain nor dairy... Maybe some have adapted but I know many people and myself feel terrible after eating any gluten or dairy.
I agree! Think of how many people are intolerant to lactose. Cows milk is meant for baby cows, not us.
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PeytonHA13 wrote: »dancefit2015 wrote: »I don't believe humans were necessarily meant to eat grain nor dairy... Maybe some have adapted but I know many people and myself feel terrible after eating any gluten or dairy.
I agree! Think of how many people are intolerant to lactose. Cows milk is meant for baby cows, not us.
What about those of us who love and tolerate dairy? I don't think there's been a day since I've been a small child that i haven't had dairy. My breakfast, lunch and dessert contains some sort of dairy every single day.
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Christine_72 wrote: »PeytonHA13 wrote: »dancefit2015 wrote: »I don't believe humans were necessarily meant to eat grain nor dairy... Maybe some have adapted but I know many people and myself feel terrible after eating any gluten or dairy.
I agree! Think of how many people are intolerant to lactose. Cows milk is meant for baby cows, not us.
What about those of us who love and tolerate dairy? I don't think there's been a day since I've been a small child that i haven't had dairy. My breakfast, lunch and dessert contains some sort of dairy every single day.
Well then you are part of the exception and I am jealous of you. However, the symptoms of intolerance aren't always quite so straightforward and obvious as an upset stomach. Not saying that you have an intolerance, just something to think about.4 -
dancefit2015 wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »PeytonHA13 wrote: »dancefit2015 wrote: »I don't believe humans were necessarily meant to eat grain nor dairy... Maybe some have adapted but I know many people and myself feel terrible after eating any gluten or dairy.
I agree! Think of how many people are intolerant to lactose. Cows milk is meant for baby cows, not us.
What about those of us who love and tolerate dairy? I don't think there's been a day since I've been a small child that i haven't had dairy. My breakfast, lunch and dessert contains some sort of dairy every single day.
Well then you are part of the exception and I am jealous of you. However, the symptoms of intolerance aren't always quite so straightforward and obvious as an upset stomach. Not saying that you have an intolerance, just something to think about.
The only intolerance I've noticed is these little white bumps on my chin when i drink too much milk. However if i switch to 100% A2 milk V regular milk they clear up. So i guess that could be some kind of dairy side effect.0 -
ForecasterJason wrote: »Regarding women and pregnancy weight gain, I think it's fair to say this. There are a lot of women out there who gain a lot more than what they really need to. Regardless of whatever amount of weight that is, there are a lot of women who gain excessively.
I'm really loving how all these men who have never been pregnant, never will be pregnant, have no clue how it feels to deal with pregnancy hormones all know what a cop-out it is for pregnant women to gain excessive weight.
Perhaps this delusion of expertise is an effect of their hormones?
(Apologies to the majority of men, who have a lick'o'sense, and much, much more. I'm just kidding. I couldn't resist. I don't mean it. The devil made me do it. )10 -
ForecasterJason wrote: »Regarding women and pregnancy weight gain, I think it's fair to say this. There are a lot of women out there who gain a lot more than what they really need to. Regardless of whatever amount of weight that is, there are a lot of women who gain excessively.
I'm really loving how all these men who have never been pregnant, never will be pregnant, have no clue how it feels to deal with pregnancy hormones all know what a cop-out it is for pregnant women to gain excessive weight.
Perhaps this delusion of expertise is an effect of their hormones?
(Apologies to the majority of men, who have a lick'o'sense, and much, much more. I'm just kidding. I couldn't resist. I don't mean it. The devil made me do it. )
Don'y worry Anne, it's just your crazy woman hormones taking over
Speaking of pregnancy hormones... I will never forget when i went to get a haircut when i was 7mths pregnant, and the MANscaper did a hideous job, i was just about in tears he hacked it that bad! When i asked him to try and fix it, he fobbed me off and said it's probably because I'm pregnant and not thinking straight5 -
dancefit2015 wrote: »I don't believe humans were necessarily meant to eat grain nor dairy... Maybe some have adapted but I know many people and myself feel terrible after eating any gluten or dairy.
Humans are not meant to travel in space and we still do...
not so fast my friend.... why the heck not?
I think we're 'supposed to do' whatever we can achieve.1 -
PeytonHA13 wrote: »dancefit2015 wrote: »I don't believe humans were necessarily meant to eat grain nor dairy... Maybe some have adapted but I know many people and myself feel terrible after eating any gluten or dairy.
I agree! Think of how many people are intolerant to lactose. Cows milk is meant for baby cows, not us.
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