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What are your unpopular opinions about health / fitness?
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Carlos_421 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »I finally have a place to say this
Not all calories are equal. Calories from a hot fudge brownie sundae is going to affect your body differently than equivalent amount of calories from broccoli and a nice piece of steak. one is going to satiate and make you energized the other will leave you hungry and lethargic. The whole world knows this (even if they don't practice it) but you get death threats if you express this on MFP. So that is my "unpopular health/fitness opinion" wow that feels good. LOL
You are confusing calories with food.
The calories in the sundae and the calories in the steak and broccoli would be exactly the same (assuming proportionate amounts of food to provide an equal number of calories) in that the calories from each would provide the same amount of energy (calories are nothing but a measurement of energy) to fuel the body.
Thus, either food choice would have the exact same impact on weight loss/gain/maintenance as they would result in an identical energy balance.
The difference between a sundae and a steak lies not in the calories but in the nutritional profile. A sundae will not have as much fiber or micronutrients as the broccoli and not as much protein as the steak. This has nothing to do with calories and nothing to do with weight loss.
If the calorie count between two diets is equal, the weight loss from both diets will be equal (assuming activity levels remain equal as well).
Saying "all calories are equal" does not mean that all foods are equal or that all foods have similar nutritional profiles or that all foods will leave you equally satiated. It means that 2,000 calories from candy and 2,000 calories from vegetables will have equal impacts on body weight. That is all.
ETA: This reply is not a death threat against you. Simply an explanation for why your statement is incorrect.
I was thinking, when @Rivers2k first posted, was that the sundae would actually fuel my heavy lifting better than the steak. Carbs for energy!
And I was thinking that the sundae would leave me feeling full longer than the steak. Meat and veggies alone don't leave me feeling full for very long (important to note since most of the "not all calories are equal" people tend to forget that "not all people's experiences with satiety are equal").
That is very true, not all people work the same. Carbs give me to much of a rush in to short of a time leaving me feeling depleted. Be careful lumping people because I never once said everyone has the same experience. I could say the same about the CICO crowd and they are very vocal about it.
Also just like not all calories are the same not all Carbs are the same (simple vs complex). I don't see athletes carbo loading with hotfudge they tend to use complex carbs.
But at the end of the day is my unpopular opinion nobody else has to like it.
Re: The bolded.
Nope, no lumping happening there.11 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »I finally have a place to say thisNot all calories are equal. Calories from a hot fudge brownie sundae is going to affect your body differently than equivalent amount of calories from broccoli and a nice piece of steak. one is going to satiate and make you energized the other will leave you hungry and lethargic. The whole world knows this (even if they don't practice it) but you get death threats if you express this on MFP. So that is my "unpopular health/fitness opinion" wow that feels good. LOL
You are confusing calories with food.
The calories in the sundae and the calories in the steak and broccoli would be exactly the same (assuming proportionate amounts of food to provide an equal number of calories) in that the calories from each would provide the same amount of energy (calories are nothing but a measurement of energy) to fuel the body.
Thus, either food choice would have the exact same impact on weight loss/gain/maintenance as they would result in an identical energy balance.
The difference between a sundae and a steak lies not in the calories but in the nutritional profile. A sundae will not have as much fiber or micronutrients as the broccoli and not as much protein as the steak. This has nothing to do with calories and nothing to do with weight loss.
If the calorie count between two diets is equal, the weight loss from both diets will be equal (assuming activity levels remain equal as well).
Saying "all calories are equal" does not mean that all foods are equal or that all foods have similar nutritional profiles or that all foods will leave you equally satiated. It means that 2,000 calories from candy and 2,000 calories from vegetables will have equal impacts on body weight. That is all.
ETA: This reply is not a death threat against you. Simply an explanation for why your statement is incorrect.
I was thinking, when @Rivers2k first posted, was that the sundae would actually fuel my heavy lifting better than the steak. Carbs for energy!
And I was thinking that the sundae would leave me feeling full longer than the steak. Meat and veggies alone don't leave me feeling full for very long (important to note since most of the "not all calories are equal" people tend to forget that "not all people's experiences with satiety are equal").
That is very true, not all people work the same. Carbs give me to much of a rush in to short of a time leaving me feeling depleted. Be careful lumping people because I never once said everyone has the same experience. I could say the same about the CICO crowd and they are very vocal about it.
Also just like not all calories are the same not all Carbs are the same (simple vs complex). I don't see athletes carbo loading with hotfudge they tend to use complex carbs.
But at the end of the day is my unpopular opinion nobody else has to like it.
Re: The bolded.
Nope, no lumping happening there.
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quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »
Oooh, but Haribo Gummy Peaches! Those are soooo good.
I re-rebut:
Bourbon Gummy Bears
OMG I love these!!!1 -
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The_Enginerd wrote: »Nachos are also acceptable.
I want them NOW and dinner is three hours away. The cruelty of these boards.
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Bah screw it we are never going to agree about this other stuff so whatever. I want to know where one purchases gummy bears with bourbon included.
Step 1: Buy Gummy Bears (The brand I have is Sugarfina Inc.)
Step 2: Buy 22ga hypodermic syringe
Step 3: Buy Bourbon
Step 4: Load syringe with Bourbon
Step 5: With bevel down and at a minor angle insert the needle into the body of the bear with greatest lateral aspect to ensure the body can support the bolus.
Step 6: Withdraw syringe.
Step 7: Repeat steps 1-6 and eat.
Or you could just soak them for 24 hours
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stanmann571 wrote: »Bah screw it we are never going to agree about this other stuff so whatever. I want to know where one purchases gummy bears with bourbon included.
Step 1: Buy Gummy Bears (The brand I have is Sugarfina Inc.)
Step 2: Buy 22ga hypodermic syringe
Step 3: Buy Bourbon
Step 4: Load syringe with Bourbon
Step 5: With bevel down and at a minor angle insert the needle into the body of the bear with greatest lateral aspect to ensure the body can support the bolus.
Step 6: Withdraw syringe.
Step 7: Repeat steps 1-6 and eat.
Or you could just soak them for 24 hours
Doesn't that make them sticky?0 -
stanmann571 wrote: »Bah screw it we are never going to agree about this other stuff so whatever. I want to know where one purchases gummy bears with bourbon included.
Step 1: Buy Gummy Bears (The brand I have is Sugarfina Inc.)
Step 2: Buy 22ga hypodermic syringe
Step 3: Buy Bourbon
Step 4: Load syringe with Bourbon
Step 5: With bevel down and at a minor angle insert the needle into the body of the bear with greatest lateral aspect to ensure the body can support the bolus.
Step 6: Withdraw syringe.
Step 7: Repeat steps 1-6 and eat.
Or you could just soak them for 24 hours
Doesn't that make them sticky?
There's a thing here (UK) where you throw all kinds of sweets/candy into bottles of vodka to make randomly flavoured vodkas.2 -
stanmann571 wrote: »Bah screw it we are never going to agree about this other stuff so whatever. I want to know where one purchases gummy bears with bourbon included.
Step 1: Buy Gummy Bears (The brand I have is Sugarfina Inc.)
Step 2: Buy 22ga hypodermic syringe
Step 3: Buy Bourbon
Step 4: Load syringe with Bourbon
Step 5: With bevel down and at a minor angle insert the needle into the body of the bear with greatest lateral aspect to ensure the body can support the bolus.
Step 6: Withdraw syringe.
Step 7: Repeat steps 1-6 and eat.
Or you could just soak them for 24 hours
Doesn't that make them sticky?
Yes. One of my friends soaked gummy bears in tequila. They were separable at first, but slowly became a single rainbow-colored zombie-multuplet bear-blob.
Scary . . . .5 -
stanmann571 wrote: »Bah screw it we are never going to agree about this other stuff so whatever. I want to know where one purchases gummy bears with bourbon included.
Step 1: Buy Gummy Bears (The brand I have is Sugarfina Inc.)
Step 2: Buy 22ga hypodermic syringe
Step 3: Buy Bourbon
Step 4: Load syringe with Bourbon
Step 5: With bevel down and at a minor angle insert the needle into the body of the bear with greatest lateral aspect to ensure the body can support the bolus.
Step 6: Withdraw syringe.
Step 7: Repeat steps 1-6 and eat.
Or you could just soak them for 24 hours
Well now we simply have to develop a Design of Experiment don't we? Stand by...I'm a doin' science.9 -
stanmann571 wrote: »Bah screw it we are never going to agree about this other stuff so whatever. I want to know where one purchases gummy bears with bourbon included.
Step 1: Buy Gummy Bears (The brand I have is Sugarfina Inc.)
Step 2: Buy 22ga hypodermic syringe
Step 3: Buy Bourbon
Step 4: Load syringe with Bourbon
Step 5: With bevel down and at a minor angle insert the needle into the body of the bear with greatest lateral aspect to ensure the body can support the bolus.
Step 6: Withdraw syringe.
Step 7: Repeat steps 1-6 and eat.
Or you could just soak them for 24 hours
Well now we simply have to develop a Design of Experiment don't we? Stand by...I'm a doin' science.10 -
OK, dunno if I will be lost in the shuffle, but I'll post mine:
Organic is a scam and a waste of money
GMO are safe and verified and there is no need to label them
You don't really need 8 glasses of water- thirst exists for a reason
Almost no one can follow a fad diet forever- and healthful changes will only last with a change you can sustain for the long haul
That's all I got for now
Science>woo27 -
OK, dunno if I will be lost in the shuffle, but I'll post mine:
Organic is a scam and a waste of money
GMO are safe and verified and there is no need to label them
You don't really need 8 glasses of water- thirst exists for a reason
Almost no one can follow a fad diet forever- and healthful changes will only last with a change you can sustain for the long haul
That's all I got for now
Science>woo
You might find more and more people are agreeing with this. Although there are still a lot of propaganda driven "mocumentaries" out there. It muddies the water.
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nutmegoreo wrote: »OK, dunno if I will be lost in the shuffle, but I'll post mine:
Organic is a scam and a waste of money
GMO are safe and verified and there is no need to label them
You don't really need 8 glasses of water- thirst exists for a reason
Almost no one can follow a fad diet forever- and healthful changes will only last with a change you can sustain for the long haul
That's all I got for now
Science>woo
You might find more and more people are seeing this. Although there are still a lot of propaganda driven "mocumentaries" out there.
Even sarcasm wouldn't make that comment appropriate...2 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »
Oooh, but Haribo Gummy Peaches! Those are soooo good.
rowntrees fruit gums. /discussion.
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canadianlbs wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »
Oooh, but Haribo Gummy Peaches! Those are soooo good.
rowntrees fruit gums. /discussion.
Randomly found those the other day on clearance at an office supplies store (???) and omg. So good.0 -
Alatariel75 wrote: »Randomly found those the other day on clearance at an office supplies store (???) and omg. So good.
FRIENDSIES!!!!
except . . . if i were in the same room with you i would steal your fruit gums. they're cruelly intermittent as far as availability in canada.
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CICO
I've seen so many people on here state that this is the Alpha and Omega of losing weight. They quote the Laws of Physics.
Sorry but it isn't that simple. Nothing in life rarely ever is.26 -
1) That sugar free products and/or protein bars are healthy. Read the labels peeps.... they're mostly full of chemical s*** that is no good for either man nor beast! Maltodextrin causes me to scowl and throw things back on the shelf. What the hell.... it was even in some supposedly 'organic' sausages I was looking at the other day.
2) Calories don't matter, just eat the right % of macro's e.g. 5% carb/20% protein/75% fat. Bollocks... calories matter. Stop telling people these lies. If you have a body that needs 2000 cals a day but eat 3000 in the 'right %' of macros you will put on weight!
3) The ketogenic diet is a load of rubbish. Frankly it's about what works for a person - does it matter if it's weight watchers, WLS, Jenny Craig, Paleo, Keto? Isn't the key thing taking ownership of your own destiny - the desire comes from within not from other people.
Hmm... probably said enough to get myself into strife here.11 -
canadianlbs wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »
Oooh, but Haribo Gummy Peaches! Those are soooo good.
rowntrees fruit gums. /discussion.
I take your Fruit Gums and raise you Fruit Pastilles. And milk bottles (I think you have to be proper British to know what those are).1
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