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What are your unpopular opinions about health / fitness?
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Cream cheese frosting for the win1
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
Did so many employees start keeping a bicycle in the company fitness center that they had to buy more bike racks?0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
Did so many employees start keeping a bicycle in the company fitness center that they had to buy more bike racks?
Nope. We don't have a company fitness center. We do have a bike rack, but it's out in the parking lot and only one person uses it.0 -
WinoGelato wrote: »stormcrow2 wrote: »What's next? Cake free zones? Where is the personal accountability for one's own actions? If you want to move forward you have to stop blaming others for your situation...
who's saying cake should be banned from work?
It's a huge leap to say "I wish people wouldn't try to pressure coworkers into eating junkfood" is somehow akin to "junk food should be banned!"
Seems to be an underlying "tone"...
people bemoaning a specific cultural norm is the remotely the same as wanting to ban that norm. I would be quite surprised if you could find very many people who thought people should be banned from bringing treats to the office.
They are already banned in many schools. How big of a leap is it to start hearing of them banned in workplaces?
Mostly banned in schools because of concerns about allergies.
Probably a secondary reason because not all parents feed their children treats and offering them would not be aligned with the wishes of the parents. Easier to just not have them in the classroom than to worry about pissing off parents.
Tertiary reason that there is a belief that sugar intake would influence the behavior of the children.
Grown adults in workplaces should be able to make their own decisions about whether or not they consume something, if it would be an allergy concern, if it fits with their overall dietary preferences, and whether consuming it will negatively effect their work performance.
Seriously - are you suggesting that offices ban treats for grown, consenting adults? Where do you draw the line? Only on foods that the workplace purchases? Telling employees that they can't make or purchase food with their own money? What constitutes a treat? Only sweet things? What if I bring in cheese and salami that I purchased for a weekend wine tasting but didn't end up putting out? Does that still fit with "cake culture"? Is my employer going to start telling me I can't bring in leftover birthday cake from my son's party for even me to consume?
I took him to be more sounding a warning note on this than advocating it.
Political entities are already taxing assorted "bad" foods, it's already a brisk psychological debate in the academy as to whether Demon Sugar is addictive or not, and we have people on this thread already outraged over things that strike the rest of us as imaginary cake microaggressions--I could completely see a zealous, true-believer HR movement pushing to get it banned or to enforce snack policies. It doesn't have to make logical sense. You could easily follow a second-hand smoke model, and force people to eat their evil, addictive devil cakes off the property and across the street in a bus hut, as many companies do with their smokers. Also, as Stef pointed out--what a temptation for workplaces, who could probably negotiate better efficiencies on insurance pricing if they had a way to (legally) manipulate what their employees eat, ridiculous as it might seem to most of us.6 -
I am dying. First this thread. Then the "healthy" snack freebie that tasted of sadness. And now a local department store has sent me an email inviting me to a coffee morning with lots of cake for charity. The universe reeeaaallly wants me to eat cake. Or I want me to eat cake. You decide which is true.17
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VintageFeline wrote: »I am dying. First this thread. Then the "healthy" snack freebie that tasted of sadness. And now a local department store has sent me an email inviting me to a coffee morning with lots of cake for charity. The universe reeeaaallly wants me to eat cake. Or I want me to eat cake. You decide which is true.
It's the living embodiment of The Secret. You want to eat cake, and you are putting it out there. The universe is working hard to make your wishes a reality. :laugh:9 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »The claim that people are celebrating/defending "cake culture" is a false dichotomy.
Several of us commented on the fact that we like cake (or pie if you prefer) but no one is saying "Yay! Cake culture is the best!"
What we are actually doing is debating:
1) The existence of a legitimate "cake culture"
2) The prevalence of "cake culture" if it is a real thing
3) Whether cake and/or other treats in the office are actually significant contributors to obesity
Oh, and here I was thinking the thread was just to express opinions. Maybe there should be a separate thread to debate those three items? My take would be 1) yes, 2) fairly common, and 3) needs further research because it is calorific snacking combined with inactivity for long portions of the day.
*cough* debate section *cough*10 -
French_Peasant wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Denying the existence of a Cake Culture seems a little silly when the mere mention of "cake" inspires multiple pages of passionate gushing over cake and other superior desserts...
Corrected.
Preach.
On a related note, I have discovered that you can get a flight of house-made pies (a generous "half" slice of 3 different kinds) at the same place where the breaded pork tenderloin sandwich was invented, in Indiana, of course.
Fabulousness.
You need to warn a guy prior to posting this material - NSFW!
We went with a full slice of sugar cream pie, and got a flight of wild black raspberry (double crust), sour cream - blueberry, and chocolate cream.
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vegaslounge wrote: »I'm late to the thread (it's been a fun read!) but figured I'd throw in my two cents...
I hate the "my coworker is trying to sabotage my weight loss by bringing in treats!" whine. And I don't just say this as a coworker who brings in said treats, I say it as a human being who has free will and doesn't have a paranoid chip on her shoulder, chocolate or otherwise.
You are not so special, and the world not so petty, that Becky from accounting is trying to derail your – yes, YOUR! PERSONAL!– weight loss goals. Even if she is, you aren't tied to your office chair while she crams cookies fois gras-style down your gullet (if this is the case, I think OSHA would be a better organization to contact than MFP). Occam's razor would say that your coworker is trying to be nice and, also, you aren't the only person in the office, buttercup. Maybe Josh from marketing or that guy who delivers the mail whom you've never bothered to learn the name of would like an afternoon pick-me-up.
The "solutions" to this "problem" are usually just as bad. I especially hate the, "throw it away in front of them, they'll get the hint" one. Again, I AM that coworker who brings in homemade goods, and based on feedback, I am a damn good cook. I've also lost 35lb in the last year. I love to bake (it's very soothing) but I don't have much of a sweet tooth so I undoubtedly make more than I know I'd eat for weeks. So, why not share the bounty? Honestly, if a coworker accepted a brownie and then made sure that I saw them throw it in the trash, I wouldn't "take the hint" that I'm not supposed to bring in treats. I'd be a little hurt because I put time, money and effort into doing something nice for the office and you're frankly coming across like a world-class kittenhole and remarkable egotist for no good reason. Even if your coworker is bringing in dollar-store doughnuts, they spent their money to be nice. Hell, my supervisor's treat last month sent me into anaphylaxis and I don't shout "murderer!" every time I see her (sometimes. Not every time.)
Maybe I'm completely wrong. Maybe there really are Brazil-esque businesses where your coworkers surround you chanting "EAT! THE! CAKE!!! EAT! THE! CAKE!!!" and you get a zap to the cajones if you refuse. Is that what real office jobs are like? I've worked in non-profits my professional career, we're kind of the hippies of the corporate world.
I personally think this cake culture is a damaging maladaption. It's not a "nice" thing to bring in fat pills. It's definitely a bad thing to do. But because we have a cake culture in offices, it's almost expected that everyone take their turn bringing in sugary, fatty foods with which to tempt each other. Also to order and share a cake when a coworker has a birthday...yuck. It's just not a healthy practice for us humans to have adopted and yet we have and there's all kind of societal expectations around accepting the food, taking your turn to bring in food, etc. The sooner gone the better.
This is probably the saddest, most blinkered view of social behavior I have ever seen expressed on the forums here.
Lol. I guess it would surprise you then if I said my bachelors degree was in Anthropology. Don't feel sad for me though! I feel sad for all the poor blue pill lemmings chomping down on cake and donuts in offices every day. I don't think cake culture should be banned, I'm pretty libertarian, but it would be better for us as a species facing an obesity crisis if we didn't have this cultural norm.14 -
vegaslounge wrote: »I'm late to the thread (it's been a fun read!) but figured I'd throw in my two cents...
I hate the "my coworker is trying to sabotage my weight loss by bringing in treats!" whine. And I don't just say this as a coworker who brings in said treats, I say it as a human being who has free will and doesn't have a paranoid chip on her shoulder, chocolate or otherwise.
You are not so special, and the world not so petty, that Becky from accounting is trying to derail your – yes, YOUR! PERSONAL!– weight loss goals. Even if she is, you aren't tied to your office chair while she crams cookies fois gras-style down your gullet (if this is the case, I think OSHA would be a better organization to contact than MFP). Occam's razor would say that your coworker is trying to be nice and, also, you aren't the only person in the office, buttercup. Maybe Josh from marketing or that guy who delivers the mail whom you've never bothered to learn the name of would like an afternoon pick-me-up.
The "solutions" to this "problem" are usually just as bad. I especially hate the, "throw it away in front of them, they'll get the hint" one. Again, I AM that coworker who brings in homemade goods, and based on feedback, I am a damn good cook. I've also lost 35lb in the last year. I love to bake (it's very soothing) but I don't have much of a sweet tooth so I undoubtedly make more than I know I'd eat for weeks. So, why not share the bounty? Honestly, if a coworker accepted a brownie and then made sure that I saw them throw it in the trash, I wouldn't "take the hint" that I'm not supposed to bring in treats. I'd be a little hurt because I put time, money and effort into doing something nice for the office and you're frankly coming across like a world-class kittenhole and remarkable egotist for no good reason. Even if your coworker is bringing in dollar-store doughnuts, they spent their money to be nice. Hell, my supervisor's treat last month sent me into anaphylaxis and I don't shout "murderer!" every time I see her (sometimes. Not every time.)
Maybe I'm completely wrong. Maybe there really are Brazil-esque businesses where your coworkers surround you chanting "EAT! THE! CAKE!!! EAT! THE! CAKE!!!" and you get a zap to the cajones if you refuse. Is that what real office jobs are like? I've worked in non-profits my professional career, we're kind of the hippies of the corporate world.
I personally think this cake culture is a damaging maladaption. It's not a "nice" thing to bring in fat pills. It's definitely a bad thing to do. But because we have a cake culture in offices, it's almost expected that everyone take their turn bringing in sugary, fatty foods with which to tempt each other. Also to order and share a cake when a coworker has a birthday...yuck. It's just not a healthy practice for us humans to have adopted and yet we have and there's all kind of societal expectations around accepting the food, taking your turn to bring in food, etc. The sooner gone the better.
This is probably the saddest, most blinkered view of social behavior I have ever seen expressed on the forums here.
Lol. I guess it would surprise you then if I said my bachelors degree was in Anthropology. Don't feel sad for me though! I feel sad for all the poor blue pill lemmings chomping down on cake and donuts in offices every day. I don't think cake culture should be banned, I'm pretty libertarian, but it would be better for us as a species facing an obesity crisis if we didn't have this cultural norm.
Do you seriously think that people eat cake in the office on a daily basis?
Is that how it is where you work?5 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »vegaslounge wrote: »I'm late to the thread (it's been a fun read!) but figured I'd throw in my two cents...
I hate the "my coworker is trying to sabotage my weight loss by bringing in treats!" whine. And I don't just say this as a coworker who brings in said treats, I say it as a human being who has free will and doesn't have a paranoid chip on her shoulder, chocolate or otherwise.
You are not so special, and the world not so petty, that Becky from accounting is trying to derail your – yes, YOUR! PERSONAL!– weight loss goals. Even if she is, you aren't tied to your office chair while she crams cookies fois gras-style down your gullet (if this is the case, I think OSHA would be a better organization to contact than MFP). Occam's razor would say that your coworker is trying to be nice and, also, you aren't the only person in the office, buttercup. Maybe Josh from marketing or that guy who delivers the mail whom you've never bothered to learn the name of would like an afternoon pick-me-up.
The "solutions" to this "problem" are usually just as bad. I especially hate the, "throw it away in front of them, they'll get the hint" one. Again, I AM that coworker who brings in homemade goods, and based on feedback, I am a damn good cook. I've also lost 35lb in the last year. I love to bake (it's very soothing) but I don't have much of a sweet tooth so I undoubtedly make more than I know I'd eat for weeks. So, why not share the bounty? Honestly, if a coworker accepted a brownie and then made sure that I saw them throw it in the trash, I wouldn't "take the hint" that I'm not supposed to bring in treats. I'd be a little hurt because I put time, money and effort into doing something nice for the office and you're frankly coming across like a world-class kittenhole and remarkable egotist for no good reason. Even if your coworker is bringing in dollar-store doughnuts, they spent their money to be nice. Hell, my supervisor's treat last month sent me into anaphylaxis and I don't shout "murderer!" every time I see her (sometimes. Not every time.)
Maybe I'm completely wrong. Maybe there really are Brazil-esque businesses where your coworkers surround you chanting "EAT! THE! CAKE!!! EAT! THE! CAKE!!!" and you get a zap to the cajones if you refuse. Is that what real office jobs are like? I've worked in non-profits my professional career, we're kind of the hippies of the corporate world.
I personally think this cake culture is a damaging maladaption. It's not a "nice" thing to bring in fat pills. It's definitely a bad thing to do. But because we have a cake culture in offices, it's almost expected that everyone take their turn bringing in sugary, fatty foods with which to tempt each other. Also to order and share a cake when a coworker has a birthday...yuck. It's just not a healthy practice for us humans to have adopted and yet we have and there's all kind of societal expectations around accepting the food, taking your turn to bring in food, etc. The sooner gone the better.
This is probably the saddest, most blinkered view of social behavior I have ever seen expressed on the forums here.
Lol. I guess it would surprise you then if I said my bachelors degree was in Anthropology. Don't feel sad for me though! I feel sad for all the poor blue pill lemmings chomping down on cake and donuts in offices every day. I don't think cake culture should be banned, I'm pretty libertarian, but it would be better for us as a species facing an obesity crisis if we didn't have this cultural norm.
Do you seriously think that people eat cake in the office on a daily basis?
Is that how it is where you work?
No, I meant it in the context of "every day somewhere, someone is chomping down on cake or donuts" not "everyday everyone is chomping down on cake or donuts"5 -
Rules of Cake Culture:
1) The first rule of Cake Culture is, you do not talk about Cake Culture.
2) The second rule of Cake Culture is, you DO NOT talk about Cake Culture.
3) If someone says stop, goes limp, or taps out, the cake eating is over.
4) At least two cakes to a cake eating.
5) One piece of cake at a time.
6) The cake eating is just cake and frosting. No sprinkles, no whipped cream, no other random toppings.
7) Cake eating will go on as long as it has to.
8) If this is your first time at Cake Culture, you have to eat cake.17 -
vegaslounge wrote: »I'm late to the thread (it's been a fun read!) but figured I'd throw in my two cents...
I hate the "my coworker is trying to sabotage my weight loss by bringing in treats!" whine. And I don't just say this as a coworker who brings in said treats, I say it as a human being who has free will and doesn't have a paranoid chip on her shoulder, chocolate or otherwise.
You are not so special, and the world not so petty, that Becky from accounting is trying to derail your – yes, YOUR! PERSONAL!– weight loss goals. Even if she is, you aren't tied to your office chair while she crams cookies fois gras-style down your gullet (if this is the case, I think OSHA would be a better organization to contact than MFP). Occam's razor would say that your coworker is trying to be nice and, also, you aren't the only person in the office, buttercup. Maybe Josh from marketing or that guy who delivers the mail whom you've never bothered to learn the name of would like an afternoon pick-me-up.
The "solutions" to this "problem" are usually just as bad. I especially hate the, "throw it away in front of them, they'll get the hint" one. Again, I AM that coworker who brings in homemade goods, and based on feedback, I am a damn good cook. I've also lost 35lb in the last year. I love to bake (it's very soothing) but I don't have much of a sweet tooth so I undoubtedly make more than I know I'd eat for weeks. So, why not share the bounty? Honestly, if a coworker accepted a brownie and then made sure that I saw them throw it in the trash, I wouldn't "take the hint" that I'm not supposed to bring in treats. I'd be a little hurt because I put time, money and effort into doing something nice for the office and you're frankly coming across like a world-class kittenhole and remarkable egotist for no good reason. Even if your coworker is bringing in dollar-store doughnuts, they spent their money to be nice. Hell, my supervisor's treat last month sent me into anaphylaxis and I don't shout "murderer!" every time I see her (sometimes. Not every time.)
Maybe I'm completely wrong. Maybe there really are Brazil-esque businesses where your coworkers surround you chanting "EAT! THE! CAKE!!! EAT! THE! CAKE!!!" and you get a zap to the cajones if you refuse. Is that what real office jobs are like? I've worked in non-profits my professional career, we're kind of the hippies of the corporate world.
I personally think this cake culture is a damaging maladaption. It's not a "nice" thing to bring in fat pills. It's definitely a bad thing to do. But because we have a cake culture in offices, it's almost expected that everyone take their turn bringing in sugary, fatty foods with which to tempt each other. Also to order and share a cake when a coworker has a birthday...yuck. It's just not a healthy practice for us humans to have adopted and yet we have and there's all kind of societal expectations around accepting the food, taking your turn to bring in food, etc. The sooner gone the better.
This is probably the saddest, most blinkered view of social behavior I have ever seen expressed on the forums here.
Lol. I guess it would surprise you then if I said my bachelors degree was in Anthropology. Don't feel sad for me though! I feel sad for all the poor blue pill lemmings chomping down on cake and donuts in offices every day. I don't think cake culture should be banned, I'm pretty libertarian, but it would be better for us as a species facing an obesity crisis if we didn't have this cultural norm.
I think it's somewhat odd that you're attaching so much significance to the fact that people are sometimes eating cake at work that it makes you feel sorry for them.
Maybe they're just people who are sometimes having cake at work and have lives that are as full of happiness, challenges, and hopes as those who never eat cake at work.14 -
What if the people eating cake are thin? Do you still pity them? I mean, I do, since if they had sense they'd be eating pie, but we covered that.
For the record, it shows that the one time I watched the Matrix I fell asleep, since my reaction to the "blue pill" thing was "wait, Viagra makes you eat cake and donuts?"12 -
janejellyroll wrote: »vegaslounge wrote: »I'm late to the thread (it's been a fun read!) but figured I'd throw in my two cents...
I hate the "my coworker is trying to sabotage my weight loss by bringing in treats!" whine. And I don't just say this as a coworker who brings in said treats, I say it as a human being who has free will and doesn't have a paranoid chip on her shoulder, chocolate or otherwise.
You are not so special, and the world not so petty, that Becky from accounting is trying to derail your – yes, YOUR! PERSONAL!– weight loss goals. Even if she is, you aren't tied to your office chair while she crams cookies fois gras-style down your gullet (if this is the case, I think OSHA would be a better organization to contact than MFP). Occam's razor would say that your coworker is trying to be nice and, also, you aren't the only person in the office, buttercup. Maybe Josh from marketing or that guy who delivers the mail whom you've never bothered to learn the name of would like an afternoon pick-me-up.
The "solutions" to this "problem" are usually just as bad. I especially hate the, "throw it away in front of them, they'll get the hint" one. Again, I AM that coworker who brings in homemade goods, and based on feedback, I am a damn good cook. I've also lost 35lb in the last year. I love to bake (it's very soothing) but I don't have much of a sweet tooth so I undoubtedly make more than I know I'd eat for weeks. So, why not share the bounty? Honestly, if a coworker accepted a brownie and then made sure that I saw them throw it in the trash, I wouldn't "take the hint" that I'm not supposed to bring in treats. I'd be a little hurt because I put time, money and effort into doing something nice for the office and you're frankly coming across like a world-class kittenhole and remarkable egotist for no good reason. Even if your coworker is bringing in dollar-store doughnuts, they spent their money to be nice. Hell, my supervisor's treat last month sent me into anaphylaxis and I don't shout "murderer!" every time I see her (sometimes. Not every time.)
Maybe I'm completely wrong. Maybe there really are Brazil-esque businesses where your coworkers surround you chanting "EAT! THE! CAKE!!! EAT! THE! CAKE!!!" and you get a zap to the cajones if you refuse. Is that what real office jobs are like? I've worked in non-profits my professional career, we're kind of the hippies of the corporate world.
I personally think this cake culture is a damaging maladaption. It's not a "nice" thing to bring in fat pills. It's definitely a bad thing to do. But because we have a cake culture in offices, it's almost expected that everyone take their turn bringing in sugary, fatty foods with which to tempt each other. Also to order and share a cake when a coworker has a birthday...yuck. It's just not a healthy practice for us humans to have adopted and yet we have and there's all kind of societal expectations around accepting the food, taking your turn to bring in food, etc. The sooner gone the better.
This is probably the saddest, most blinkered view of social behavior I have ever seen expressed on the forums here.
Lol. I guess it would surprise you then if I said my bachelors degree was in Anthropology. Don't feel sad for me though! I feel sad for all the poor blue pill lemmings chomping down on cake and donuts in offices every day. I don't think cake culture should be banned, I'm pretty libertarian, but it would be better for us as a species facing an obesity crisis if we didn't have this cultural norm.
I think it's somewhat odd that you're attaching so much significance to the fact that people are sometimes eating cake at work that it makes you feel sorry for them.
Maybe they're just people who are sometimes having cake at work and have lives that are as full of happiness, challenges, and hopes as those who never eat cake at work.
Since all my children have grown up and moved out I rather enjoy the occasional cake at work because I rarely bake at home anymore. With just me and my husband here we either have to eat more than we'd like or end up throwing some out. Or taking it to work to share.3 -
French_Peasant wrote: »French_Peasant wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Denying the existence of a Cake Culture seems a little silly when the mere mention of "cake" inspires multiple pages of passionate gushing over cake and other superior desserts...
Corrected.
Preach.
On a related note, I have discovered that you can get a flight of house-made pies (a generous "half" slice of 3 different kinds) at the same place where the breaded pork tenderloin sandwich was invented, in Indiana, of course.
Fabulousness.
You need to warn a guy prior to posting this material - NSFW!
We went with a full slice of sugar cream pie, and got a flight of wild black raspberry (double crust), sour cream - blueberry, and chocolate cream.
Anyone got a cigarette?7 -
Someone brought a carrot cake with cream cheese icing in to my workplace today. We almost never really make anything like that at home so it is nice having the option to enjoy a treat from time to time. Plus carrots are a vegetable so its kind of like I am having a salad.
1: Where do you work?
2: Are you hiring?2 -
FFS, it's literally just cake! Or a cookie, or a muffin, or a donut. At most once a week in most offices. Why so much drama about "cake culture". That one slice of cake isn't why Brian in marketing is 300lbs. It wasn't why I was 220lbs. Eating too much all the time and being lazy AF (with some mitigating circumstances but still, personal accountability) is why I was fat. Keep bringing the cake, it's really and truly NBD.
Never known something so innocent create such an irrational response.16 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »vegaslounge wrote: »I'm late to the thread (it's been a fun read!) but figured I'd throw in my two cents...
I hate the "my coworker is trying to sabotage my weight loss by bringing in treats!" whine. And I don't just say this as a coworker who brings in said treats, I say it as a human being who has free will and doesn't have a paranoid chip on her shoulder, chocolate or otherwise.
You are not so special, and the world not so petty, that Becky from accounting is trying to derail your – yes, YOUR! PERSONAL!– weight loss goals. Even if she is, you aren't tied to your office chair while she crams cookies fois gras-style down your gullet (if this is the case, I think OSHA would be a better organization to contact than MFP). Occam's razor would say that your coworker is trying to be nice and, also, you aren't the only person in the office, buttercup. Maybe Josh from marketing or that guy who delivers the mail whom you've never bothered to learn the name of would like an afternoon pick-me-up.
The "solutions" to this "problem" are usually just as bad. I especially hate the, "throw it away in front of them, they'll get the hint" one. Again, I AM that coworker who brings in homemade goods, and based on feedback, I am a damn good cook. I've also lost 35lb in the last year. I love to bake (it's very soothing) but I don't have much of a sweet tooth so I undoubtedly make more than I know I'd eat for weeks. So, why not share the bounty? Honestly, if a coworker accepted a brownie and then made sure that I saw them throw it in the trash, I wouldn't "take the hint" that I'm not supposed to bring in treats. I'd be a little hurt because I put time, money and effort into doing something nice for the office and you're frankly coming across like a world-class kittenhole and remarkable egotist for no good reason. Even if your coworker is bringing in dollar-store doughnuts, they spent their money to be nice. Hell, my supervisor's treat last month sent me into anaphylaxis and I don't shout "murderer!" every time I see her (sometimes. Not every time.)
Maybe I'm completely wrong. Maybe there really are Brazil-esque businesses where your coworkers surround you chanting "EAT! THE! CAKE!!! EAT! THE! CAKE!!!" and you get a zap to the cajones if you refuse. Is that what real office jobs are like? I've worked in non-profits my professional career, we're kind of the hippies of the corporate world.
I personally think this cake culture is a damaging maladaption. It's not a "nice" thing to bring in fat pills. It's definitely a bad thing to do. But because we have a cake culture in offices, it's almost expected that everyone take their turn bringing in sugary, fatty foods with which to tempt each other. Also to order and share a cake when a coworker has a birthday...yuck. It's just not a healthy practice for us humans to have adopted and yet we have and there's all kind of societal expectations around accepting the food, taking your turn to bring in food, etc. The sooner gone the better.
This is probably the saddest, most blinkered view of social behavior I have ever seen expressed on the forums here.
Lol. I guess it would surprise you then if I said my bachelors degree was in Anthropology. Don't feel sad for me though! I feel sad for all the poor blue pill lemmings chomping down on cake and donuts in offices every day. I don't think cake culture should be banned, I'm pretty libertarian, but it would be better for us as a species facing an obesity crisis if we didn't have this cultural norm.
Do you seriously think that people eat cake in the office on a daily basis?
Is that how it is where you work?
No, I meant it in the context of "every day somewhere, someone is chomping down on cake or donuts" not "everyday everyone is chomping down on cake or donuts"
How precise. So since at least one in 7 billion people will eat cake today, we're all just lemmings. lol ok10 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »What if the people eating cake are thin? Do you still pity them? I mean, I do, since if they had sense they'd be eating pie, but we covered that.
For the record, it shows that the one time I watched the Matrix I fell asleep, since my reaction to the "blue pill" thing was "wait, Viagra makes you eat cake and donuts?"
Oh it's a Matrix thing? I've never seen it so I was confused too.1 -
Let's pretend that we believe cake culture exists for a moment. Even if it does exist, whose fault is it? The people who bring in the cake, the people who eat it, or the supposed pressure that there is to eat said cake?
I will admit that I am one to eat something if it is there. When they tell us there is cake, bagels, whatever in the break room, I go for it, practically a beeline for it. If it tastes icky I might throw it out, but generally I'll eat it. I can't blame anyone other than myself. (This is the same for family gatherings, etc). Since I have started having hypoglycemia issues, I've started exercising my "no thank you" muscles. And guess what, nobody even questions if I chose not to partake of any or all of what is available.
So, even if there is a "culture" than can lead to a perceived pressure to eat cake or anything else that is available, I firmly believe it still comes down to personal responsibility. If you eat it because it's available, you can chose to not make it available to you in some way, or compensate by eating less later, or exercising more (not as punishment, just as part of that balance we need to develop in our lives). Or, you know, work on being mindful about what you eat. And if you're worried about what "our culture" is doing to others, maybe you need to remember to worry about you and not others unless they ask.
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lemurcat12 wrote: »What if the people eating cake are thin? Do you still pity them? I mean, I do, since if they had sense they'd be eating pie, but we covered that.
For the record, it shows that the one time I watched the Matrix I fell asleep, since my reaction to the "blue pill" thing was "wait, Viagra makes you eat cake and donuts?"
Yes. For the record, I agree that pie is superior to cake....unless it's jello pudding poured into a pie shell...that is a travesty against piedom3 -
I believe human beings have been misclassified as omnivores and that we are actually carnivores (this would take paragraphs to explain, especially since it *appears* that it is possible to be a 'healthy vegan'), and essentially for alot of people it is impossible to be healthy without eating red meat alot more than what is recommended in mainstream views of human nutrition.
LOL, no. I'm an archaeologist, I suspect I know a little bit more about this topic than you. Not a single human ancestor, nor any of the dead end branch cousins, were carnivores. Not even close. None of the other Great Apes, our closest living relatives, are carnivores. We are omnivores. We evolved to be able to eat a wide variety of foods, both plant and animal. One look at our dentition and our digestive tract tells you that.
Let me guess, you do keto.20 -
oh how I would love to write my psych dissertation on cake culture in the workplace....haha!7
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Carlos_421 wrote: »
Do you seriously think that people eat cake in the office on a daily basis?
Is that how it is where you work?
I'm not going to dig into whether or not there is a "cake culture". But I just have to say that at my work, EVERY SINGLE DAY, at least one person (sometimes multiple people) bring in treats to share. The snack table used to sit right behind my desk. I made them move that table.5 -
A zillionty people toil away at meaningless monotony in drab, badly lit offices, where HR and management demand only the most bland and hollow of language and personal interaction, while we all fakespeak about metrics and verbed nouns, and surprise, surprise, the office cake and thursday morning donuts become a bright spot.
We should definitely move to crush that little bit optional joy as soon as possible, and replace it with something that produces only the most optimal of results.22 -
Also, terribly sorry for distracting from the cake discussion (but those who know me know I couldn't let ^^that stand...).
To get back to cake...Cake is awesome. Carrot cake with lemon cream cheese icing for me please. Food sharing isn't just a human thing, it's a Great Ape thing. We have always done it. No one is making you eat the cake. You are a grown up, you can make your own decisions.7 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »Also, terribly sorry for distracting from the cake discussion (but those who know me know I couldn't let ^^that stand...).
To get back to cake...Cake is awesome. Carrot cake with lemon cream cheese icing for me please. Food sharing isn't just a human thing, it's a Great Ape thing. We have always done it. No one is making you eat the cake. You are a grown up, you can make your own decisions.
My orangutan friend at the zoo gets very (what appears to be) jealous when I bring treats to her habitat and don't offer to share them with her. At the least I have to sit and eat them by showing her each bite. I kinda feel a little guilty that there is a two inch window between us, but then she doesn't have any food I want, so...3 -
deannalfisher wrote: »oh how I would love to write my psych dissertation on cake culture in the workplace....haha!
Why not? Another theme would be how it intersects with the individualism of American culture...hence the primary defence being along the lines of "it's your choice to eat or not eat the cake" "just say no" etc. How does cake culture play out in societies that value conformity over individualism?6
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