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RiderOfWestern wrote: »KosmosKitten wrote: »KickassAmazon76 wrote: »KosmosKitten wrote: »KosmosKitten wrote: »_Miss_chievous_ wrote: »
They don't, hence why they treat themselves like garbage or assume everyone sees them as something to be objectified.
Oof, you can disagree with me all ya' want, but I speak from experience. You don't treat yourself like trash unless you feel that way about yourself. If you can't love yourself, you can't expect nor believe when others DON'T treat you that way.
I think that "treat themselves like trash" is a very subjective statement, and entirely derived by the person judging their actions.
Some people may feel that a person who has multiple partners is trashy - when to that person it's a conscious choice to enjoy their company and comes from a place of strong confidence in what they want.
Other people may enjoy a lot of junk food, and others may say that not eating clean means you don't value your body.
I do agree that if a person truly feels they have no value, then they will not expect others to value them, and they are less likely to act in ways that reflect their inherent value...
But I think one needs to be very careful when trying to assign / label another's persons actions based on a third partie's value system.
All that aside... I do not see what this trail of comments has to do with the original quote. And kind of feel Ike it's hurtful to the poster.
I wasn't talking about assigning the actions of others toward oneself. I was talking about a person literally seeing themselves as "trash" or "garbage" based on extremely low self-esteem. Those people usually do not assign negative intentions to other people, but have a rather hard time believing the genuine feelings and words of others because their own perception and self-worth is so damaged.
Also, welcome to Chit-Chat. Side rails are pretty common here.
side tails without guard rails
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KickassAmazon76 wrote: »KosmosKitten wrote: »KickassAmazon76 wrote: »KosmosKitten wrote: »KosmosKitten wrote: »_Miss_chievous_ wrote: »
They don't, hence why they treat themselves like garbage or assume everyone sees them as something to be objectified.
Oof, you can disagree with me all ya' want, but I speak from experience. You don't treat yourself like trash unless you feel that way about yourself. If you can't love yourself, you can't expect nor believe when others DON'T treat you that way.
I think that "treat themselves like trash" is a very subjective statement, and entirely derived by the person judging their actions.
Some people may feel that a person who has multiple partners is trashy - when to that person it's a conscious choice to enjoy their company and comes from a place of strong confidence in what they want.
Other people may enjoy a lot of junk food, and others may say that not eating clean means you don't value your body.
I do agree that if a person truly feels they have no value, then they will not expect others to value them, and they are less likely to act in ways that reflect their inherent value...
But I think one needs to be very careful when trying to assign / label another's persons actions based on a third partie's value system.
All that aside... I do not see what this trail of comments has to do with the original quote. And kind of feel Ike it's hurtful to the poster.
I wasn't talking about assigning the actions of others toward oneself. I was talking about a person literally seeing themselves as "trash" or "garbage" based on extremely low self-esteem. Those people usually do not assign negative intentions to other people, but have a rather hard time believing the genuine feelings and words of others because their own perception and self-worth is so damaged.
Also, welcome to Chit-Chat. Side rails are pretty common here.
Oh, I am well acquainted with chit chat (not my first incarnation here). Usually there is SOME kind of relevance to the OP. I didn't see any, and wondered whether what the correlation (however small) could be, or if the quote on her post was accidental.
When I first read your response, my instant reaction was "is she talking about the OP?" because I felt like the op was sharing something very emotionally profound. I got defensive on her behalf because she has seemed nothing short of amazing, and is someone dealing with serious tar in her life, and handling it admirably (inspirationally).
If there is no correlation, that is good to know and I appreciate the clarification.
Nope, no correlation at all. I am rather fond of (and somewhat defensive of) @Miss_Chievous_ She's good peeps, yo.3 -
https://www.yahoo.com/news/california-woman-cared-her-perfect-021732550.html
It a metaphor.
No roots below the surface. All fake. Cared for and in a place of honor for years.
And she’s going to keep it.2 -
I need to get fitted for a Tux today for an event later this month that im not looking forward to.5
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miss_zita_2020 wrote: »I wonder if it’s gonna stop raining when I go for my running on my lunch break.......
Hope you can still get it in. I love running in the rain the best...especially in the summer. 😊2 -
Simple stuff like how I am sad that coffee does not provide me with energy benefits. Same with exercise. I get no discernible benefit from it outside of calorie burn.
I just want to be not tired all the time. Is that so much to ask?3 -
I've been thinking about journaling. I don't have an outlet to get my thoughts out and I'm thinking maybe writing them down will help. Maybe I won't feel like everything is weighing me down as much.7
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a back massage0
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r3d_butt3rfly_ wrote: »I've been thinking about journaling. I don't have an outlet to get my thoughts out and I'm thinking maybe writing them down will help. Maybe I won't feel like everything is weighing me down as much.
This is very therapeutic, K. I still write letters to my Mom every time I succeed at something that I think she'd be proud of, or I simply just don't feel good. 😔 Damn, I miss her so much. 💔7 -
r3d_butt3rfly_ wrote: »I've been thinking about journaling. I don't have an outlet to get my thoughts out and I'm thinking maybe writing them down will help. Maybe I won't feel like everything is weighing me down as much.
100% suggest giving this a try
Have done it, would do it again A++++++++++1 -
r3d_butt3rfly_ wrote: »I've been thinking about journaling. I don't have an outlet to get my thoughts out and I'm thinking maybe writing them down will help. Maybe I won't feel like everything is weighing me down as much.
I’ve not done this - but has been recommended to me by many1 -
r3d_butt3rfly_ wrote: »I've been thinking about journaling. I don't have an outlet to get my thoughts out and I'm thinking maybe writing them down will help. Maybe I won't feel like everything is weighing me down as much.
Doing this helped me so much during the time my marriage was falling apart.
I had no one to share with.
It felt so good to write down my feelings and frustrations.
Then he read it........... 👿3 -
r3d_butt3rfly_ wrote: »I've been thinking about journaling. I don't have an outlet to get my thoughts out and I'm thinking maybe writing them down will help. Maybe I won't feel like everything is weighing me down as much.
I've journaled since I was about 15, near 30 years. 🙂 It helps me to see and make sense of how I'm feeling and get to the real root of a problem. I also like reading back over past journals, seeing how I've progressed, how situations changed, see how I handled things. Also, my memory sucks so it helps me remember events etc 😜
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Jo's awake!1
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miss_zita_2020 wrote: »miss_zita_2020 wrote: »I wonder if it’s gonna stop raining when I go for my running on my lunch break.......
Hope you can still get it in. I love running in the rain the best...especially in the summer. 😊
Thank you Chris! 😊
I love it too but not when I have to get back to the office........we have showers but not hairdryers to dry my hair.......
Went out and ran for 30 minutes and wasn’t too bad, just a very light shower on the way back 👍
I'm pretty fortunate.....I work less than a 1/2 mile from the local Y and am a member, so I go run when I work in the city and then go clean up there. 😊 Have a great weekend!0 -
slimgirljo15 wrote: »r3d_butt3rfly_ wrote: »I've been thinking about journaling. I don't have an outlet to get my thoughts out and I'm thinking maybe writing them down will help. Maybe I won't feel like everything is weighing me down as much.
I've journaled since I was about 15, near 30 7 years. 🙂 It helps me to see and make sense of how I'm feeling and get to the real root of a problem. I also like reading back over past journals, seeing how I've progressed, how situations changed, see how I handled things. Also, my memory sucks so it helps me remember events etc 😜
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