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snowflake954 wrote: »School is still in session today but spring break is next week and I think they're thinking of just having virtual school after that, although it hasn't been announced yet in my district. Stores are being wiped completely clean of all paper products, clorox wipes, bleach etc. It's pretty *kitten*. Let's just share guys... I was legitimately running out of toilet paper at my house lol. I have to work still, I'm in a small office but so many people have been sick over the last couple weeks including me (not corona that I'm aware of?? No one is getting tested for that here!) I don't like sending my kids to daycare but what is there for me to do
Here in Italy, when all schools and universities were closed, the government set up a voucher system to pay for babysitters for people that have no other option. Hopefully your government will do the same.
If we're talking about the US government, I wouldn't be optimistic about that.9 -
Our head immunologists are saying that a drug used in treating reumatoide arthritis is helpful in treating COV19. It can get people off the respirator and into regular care. The drug is manufactured by Rouche here in Italy, they will give it for free (if I'm understanding this right), sorry, but this is fresh news. China is working closely with us and this is what they started using. I will keep you posted if there is any other news on this front.14
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janejellyroll wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »School is still in session today but spring break is next week and I think they're thinking of just having virtual school after that, although it hasn't been announced yet in my district. Stores are being wiped completely clean of all paper products, clorox wipes, bleach etc. It's pretty *kitten*. Let's just share guys... I was legitimately running out of toilet paper at my house lol. I have to work still, I'm in a small office but so many people have been sick over the last couple weeks including me (not corona that I'm aware of?? No one is getting tested for that here!) I don't like sending my kids to daycare but what is there for me to do
Here in Italy, when all schools and universities were closed, the government set up a voucher system to pay for babysitters for people that have no other option. Hopefully your government will do the same.
If we're talking about the US government, I wouldn't be optimistic about that.
With the closure of the schools mandatory in three counties in WA they have also made provisions in the mandate to provide child care for the children of first responders and medical professionals.5 -
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snowflake954 wrote: »Our head immunologists are saying that a drug used in treating reumatoide arthritis is helpful in treating COV19. It can get people off the respirator and into regular care. The drug is manufactured by Rouche here in Italy, they will give it for free (if I'm understanding this right), sorry, but this is fresh news. China is working closely with us and this is what they started using. I will keep you posted if there is any other news on this front.
Great information. The drug (Actemra) you're alluding to is an Interleukin 6 inhibitor. There are natural ones as well -- most of them are Polyphenols. I'm LOADED up on Polyphenols. But this article, while this guy is controversial, gives a nice list of more natural IL-6 inhibitors.
It wouldn't hurt to have some Polyphenols on hand. Amla is a very powerful one. The article lists many more. Personally, I also think AHCC (a special mushroom supplement) and Monolaurin (both coconut derivatives shown to restrict virus growth) would help too.
https://selfhack.com/blog/interleukin-6/
Here's related to the Actemra find. I don't understand enough about the basic science to know why this would help. From what little I know about IL-6 inhibitors, they lower part of your immunity, which, at first glance, seems counterintuitive. But I'm not a scientist. I'm guessing that, at a point, the progression in the lungs acts like an Autoimmune disease, with your body's own defenses making things worse.
http://www.pmlive.com/pharma_news/china_backs_use_of_roches_actemra_for_coronavirus_13280143 -
I thought it was going to be a tongue in cheek article telling us not to forget to breathe.
too soon?3 -
DecadeDuchess wrote: »@earlnabby Having an issue isolating the quote, but your comment made me think of this:
https://www.wdrb.com/news/national/the-psychology-behind-why-toilet-paper-of-all-things-is/article_277db5d4-6255-11ea-a9a5-cb183ea659db.html
That was interesting. Still didn't answer the question of why toilet paper. This is not a new thing as those of us who live in the frozen north know well.
I just figure it's one of those things that separates us from the animals. I think somebody else mentioned that early on in the thread... it's the mark of civilized society.
Bidet > Charmin Ultrasoft Mega > Other consumer TP > commercial TP which is all that's now available in stores near me > newspaper > moss (early medieval) > corncob > left hand
Charmin, means that dryer lint's also an option!
*Frantically starts washing towels*3 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Our head immunologists are saying that a drug used in treating reumatoide arthritis is helpful in treating COV19. It can get people off the respirator and into regular care. The drug is manufactured by Rouche here in Italy, they will give it for free (if I'm understanding this right), sorry, but this is fresh news. China is working closely with us and this is what they started using. I will keep you posted if there is any other news on this front.
Great information. The drug you're alluding to is an Interleuken 6 inhibitor. There are natural ones as well -- most of them are Polyphenols. I'm LOADED up on Polyphenols. But this article, while this guy is controversial, gives a nice list of more natural IL-6 inhibitors.
https://selfhack.com/blog/interleukin-6/
I posted specifically for you since you are in the loop about this. I'm an interior designer, not a scientist. I was hoping you could check your contacts and verify what I heard. I hate to give people false hope.5 -
janejellyroll wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »School is still in session today but spring break is next week and I think they're thinking of just having virtual school after that, although it hasn't been announced yet in my district. Stores are being wiped completely clean of all paper products, clorox wipes, bleach etc. It's pretty *kitten*. Let's just share guys... I was legitimately running out of toilet paper at my house lol. I have to work still, I'm in a small office but so many people have been sick over the last couple weeks including me (not corona that I'm aware of?? No one is getting tested for that here!) I don't like sending my kids to daycare but what is there for me to do
Here in Italy, when all schools and universities were closed, the government set up a voucher system to pay for babysitters for people that have no other option. Hopefully your government will do the same.
If we're talking about the US government, I wouldn't be optimistic about that.
Considering they're having trouble just getting a bill passed to waive fees/copays for covid-19 testing, I'm afraid you're correct.9 -
DecadeDuchess wrote: »@earlnabby Having an issue isolating the quote, but your comment made me think of this:
https://www.wdrb.com/news/national/the-psychology-behind-why-toilet-paper-of-all-things-is/article_277db5d4-6255-11ea-a9a5-cb183ea659db.html
That was interesting. Still didn't answer the question of why toilet paper. This is not a new thing as those of us who live in the frozen north know well.
I just figure it's one of those things that separates us from the animals. I think somebody else mentioned that early on in the thread... it's the mark of civilized society.
Bidet > Charmin Ultrasoft Mega > Other consumer TP > commercial TP which is all that's now available in stores near me > newspaper > moss (early medieval) > corncob > left hand
Charmin, means that dryer lint's also an option!
*Frantically starts washing towels*5 -
cmriverside wrote: »
I thought it was going to be a tongue in cheek article telling us not to forget to breathe.
too soon?
Yeah, that's why I clicked on it. I thought "calming breaths shown to reduce cortisol" or something. I'm all in favor of calming breaths.2 -
No confirmed cases in my county/town yet, but we are up to 29 I think in Virginia, and the most recent is next county over. The number jumped by 11 overnight, and no details if the new cases are now community spread, as I believe the 18 before could be easily traced to travel.
I managed to grab some Charmin TP for my parents in CVS - I thought people might forget to check there as it's always empty, but they were running out fast. Also picked up wine and Easter chocolates for my sanity.8 -
Fun fact for anyone who cares: The cheapest shelf-stable food item you can buy(at least in Canada) is dried soybeans. They're $0.19 per 100 g. I used this as a reminder to restock my emergency food supply in my pantry, not because I'm worried about this in particular but because we have had blizzards as late in the year as the May long weekend, so it never hurts if there's a disaster like getting snowed in. The toilet paper hoarding is getting utterly ridiculous, though. Hand sanitizer too. Not only is hand sanitizer sold out everywhere but so is aloe vera gel and rubbing alcohol, which you can use to make homemade hand sanitizer in a pinch.3
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Right now I'm trying to decide whether or not to physically attend church for the next few weeks. Generally there are about 300 people in attendance, but they always live stream the service, so virtual attendance is an option.
The Archdiocese of Chicago just announced that mass is suspended starting this weekend (as well as closing all their schools starting Monday). They are encouraging parishes that can to broadcast mass, though, and churches are open for private prayer.3 -
Interestingly... all the Catholic schools and charter schools in NYC are closing next week, while the public schools remain open.2
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DecadeDuchess wrote: »@earlnabby Having an issue isolating the quote, but your comment made me think of this:
https://www.wdrb.com/news/national/the-psychology-behind-why-toilet-paper-of-all-things-is/article_277db5d4-6255-11ea-a9a5-cb183ea659db.html
That was interesting. Still didn't answer the question of why toilet paper. This is not a new thing as those of us who live in the frozen north know well.
I just figure it's one of those things that separates us from the animals. I think somebody else mentioned that early on in the thread... it's the mark of civilized society.
Bidet > Charmin Ultrasoft Mega > Other consumer TP > commercial TP which is all that's now available in stores near me > newspaper > moss (early medieval) > corncob > left hand
Charmin, means that dryer lint's also an option!
*Frantically starts washing towels*
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No confirmed cases in my county/town yet, but we are up to 29 I think in Virginia, and the most recent is next county over. The number jumped by 11 overnight, and no details if the new cases are now community spread, as I believe the 18 before could be easily traced to travel.
I managed to grab some Charmin TP for my parents in CVS - I thought people might forget to check there as it's always empty, but they were running out fast. Also picked up wine and Easter chocolates for my sanity.
I'm a headhunter in Commercial Construction on one side and startups on the other (where the immunology comes in). Got to admit I got a bit drunk last night watching the markets! Huge projects being postponed. Most can't cancel the contracts, but they can postone. Many have already been put on hold.
Thank goodness I diversified a few years ago. Construction will recover quickly. It needs a breather right now.5 -
I'm in Florida. Disney World and Universal Studios have shut down for the remainder of the month. All universities are to switch to online classes until at least April 6th. All events are being cancelled.
My fiancé and all our closest friends work at Publix here. My friend just told us that her store won't receive shipments of toilet paper until maybe June or July...
Reading all the various articles, it's upsetting how far behind the US is in testing for Covid-19. The CDC completed 100 tests in the last 3 days I believe. I believe that the true numbers of positive cases are higher here, but there is no way to know if not tested. If our ability to test is hindered, I'm thankful for the other measures being taken to limit chances of this spreading through large crowds.
While I may only experience mild symptoms if I were to get Covid-19, I could not imagine the pain of losing my grandparents to something like this.
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snowflake954 wrote: »Our head immunologists are saying that a drug used in treating reumatoide arthritis is helpful in treating COV19. It can get people off the respirator and into regular care. The drug is manufactured by Rouche here in Italy, they will give it for free (if I'm understanding this right), sorry, but this is fresh news. China is working closely with us and this is what they started using. I will keep you posted if there is any other news on this front.
Is this what you mean? although this was a few days ago
https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma-asia/china-turns-roche-arthritis-drug-actemra-against-covid-19-new-treatment-guidelines0 -
snowflake954 wrote: »School is still in session today but spring break is next week and I think they're thinking of just having virtual school after that, although it hasn't been announced yet in my district. Stores are being wiped completely clean of all paper products, clorox wipes, bleach etc. It's pretty *kitten*. Let's just share guys... I was legitimately running out of toilet paper at my house lol. I have to work still, I'm in a small office but so many people have been sick over the last couple weeks including me (not corona that I'm aware of?? No one is getting tested for that here!) I don't like sending my kids to daycare but what is there for me to do
Here in Italy, when all schools and universities were closed, the government set up a voucher system to pay for babysitters for people that have no other option. Hopefully your government will do the same.
That could be an opportunity for people laid off from businesses suffering from closures and lack of consumer demand (restaurants, movie theaters, etc., etc.) to bring in a little income by babysitting, preferably for people they already know, because we don't have the infrastructure to be vetting millions of new babysitters.
And, really, I don't know that it should be limited to people that "have no other option." Moving kids from schools to large-scale day-care centers doesn't really accomplish anything from the perspective of limiting transmission. Best case would be for all those kids to stay at home, whether under parental care or babysitter care, paid for with vouchers if parents need them.1
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