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  • Diatonic12
    Diatonic12 Posts: 32,344 Member
    This is a Corona song. I just had to share it with all'y'all, it's Rolling Stones inspired. The pesky tourists are swarming my home and I can't wait for them to git along lil dogies.

    I'm in a lockdown

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um2HLwseRaI


  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,887 Member
    Fuzzipeg wrote: »
    Err. Sorry i did not say small pox was spread from excrement. I said the initial contamination from covid came from animals in wet food markents from there once it, the virus knows how to move from person to person it goes from person to person. Had hygene been higher in the markets which it was not because of povity and so on.

    It still seems as if you are saying that the issue is that people aren't careful enough about avoiding uncontaminated food (like contaminated lettuce), and adding on that somehow people weren't adequately washing hands and such.

    While, sure, things like masks, hand washing, etc., can help reduce the spread of existing diseases, and poor people in poor countries (or countries with lots of poor people) may have conditions that make human to human spread more likely (due to people being in close quarters and such), that's not really the issue with wet markets and especially wet markets that illegally include wildlife (including wildlife that is banned from being there).

    Note: I think in this current case there is not clear-cut knowledge as to what happened or that it was related to a pangolin and/or bat as originally stated.

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/2020/04/coronavirus-linked-to-chinese-wet-markets/#close

    The issue with the wet markets/wildlife markets is the mixing of live animals that can spread viruses to each other and lead to mutations that allow them to be spread to humans. Again, my understanding about why parts of China have been the source of some of these viruses is that the way farming works -- close contact between ducks (a reservoir for bird flu which humans cannot normally catch) and pigs (who can pass on flu to humans and catch it from ducks, leading to mutations making the bird flu potentially infectious to humans) -- https://old.post-gazette.com/healthscience/20010429chinafluhealth3.asp. Something similar seems likely to happen with the wet markets and might well have been the issue here.

    It's the close contact between humans and animals and some types of animals with others (and potentially "exotic" animals with others passing on new viruses that humans had not been exposed to before.
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,887 Member
    edited May 2020
    Fuzzipeg wrote: »
    If you do not wash your salad properly as was suggested in the post i was replying to, where that person lives they have high levles of, word escapes me, virus contamination for want of a better term, obviously you can't be sure what is being transferred from hand to mouth. LIke i said we have and practice good hygene standards and things. our bagged salads are washed in clinically checked clean water. loose salads we do at home and its down to you if you don't follow expected standards.

    FYI: https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/lettuce-e-coli-contamination-1.4913956#:~:text=Washing the produce at home,not removing 100 per cent.

    (And no, I didn't say you got viruses from lettuce. I was responding to your claim that the virus was created due to lack of sanitation. That seems a misunderstanding of how zoonotic diseases occur.)
  • rheddmobile
    rheddmobile Posts: 6,840 Member
    Strudders67 wrote: »
    "Our local supermarkets are appealing to shoppers to examine items with their eyes instead of their hands before making a selection. This protects you from having to buy the items I already touched and left on the shelf."

    Our's ask the same. Unfortunately, the key nutritional info for diabetics is on the back and if I need to compare items, to pick the one with the lowest carbs per 100g, I need to turn the packets round. If all supermarkets stocked the same cereal so that i could buy the same stuff each time, I'd be fine - but they don't.

    Also a diabetic. I generally compare info online, then double check my selection at the store. No need to fondle a bunch of different varieties to find which one is best. (Not that I would ever eat cereal, but that’s another subject.)
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    Some interesting discussions about how SARS-COV-2 is not a respiratory disease as much as a blood vessel disease.

    https://elemental.medium.com/coronavirus-may-be-a-blood-vessel-disease-which-explains-everything-2c4032481ab2

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30937-5/fulltext
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,817 Member
    Fascinating, scary, hopeful, scary, @T1DCarnivoreRunner
  • rheddmobile
    rheddmobile Posts: 6,840 Member
    Strudders67 wrote: »
    Until I get to the supermarket and see what they have, I can't check info - and I'm only going shopping in the bigger supermarkets once a month. The problem is that the supermarket doesn't always stock what I plan to buy. In some cases, what I'd bought previously is now discontinued.
    Athijade wrote: »
    rheddmobile wrote: »

    Also a diabetic. I generally compare info online, then double check my selection at the store. No need to fondle a bunch of different varieties to find which one is best. (Not that I would ever eat cereal, but that’s another subject.)

    I have on more then one occasion done that... then gotten to the store and checked the actual product only to find that something has changed. If I had bought and ate the product based off of the online information and not the REAL information I would have been seriously ill.

    Yep, that’s why I said to double check the box information at the store. Not that there’s any guarantee, in case of a discrepancy between the info on the box and the info on the company website, that the box is the correct one.

    Even so, if I’m buying something as out there for diabetics as cereal, I know going in from research which varieties of cereal might be low enough in carbs to be candidates. Cereal by definition is cereal grains (straight carbs) processed to be even quicker to digest. An exception to that rule seems like it would be something you would know about before you got there.
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »
    Some interesting discussions about how SARS-COV-2 is not a respiratory disease as much as a blood vessel disease.

    https://elemental.medium.com/coronavirus-may-be-a-blood-vessel-disease-which-explains-everything-2c4032481ab2

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30937-5/fulltext

    Very interesting. That might explain why (here in Italy) survivors of COVID19 are asked to donate their blood. Andrea Boccelli just donated, and it was all over the News. The plasma is used on those who are fighting the disease. They've had good luck with this approach.
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,817 Member
    The "general" subforum has lost its pages...we can't look at anything that's not on the first page.

    I'm bumping this so it will go to the top.
  • ReenieHJ
    ReenieHJ Posts: 9,723 Member
    Buttermello wrote: »
    snowflake954 wrote: »
    T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »
    Some interesting discussions about how SARS-COV-2 is not a respiratory disease as much as a blood vessel disease.

    https://elemental.medium.com/coronavirus-may-be-a-blood-vessel-disease-which-explains-everything-2c4032481ab2

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30937-5/fulltext

    Very interesting. That might explain why (here in Italy) survivors of COVID19 are asked to donate their blood. Andrea Boccelli just donated, and it was all over the News. The plasma is used on those who are fighting the disease. They've had good luck with this approach.

    100% of the patients I work with are COVID positive, and we have been giving the plasma to the patients who qualify for it, for around 3 weeks now - the results are astounding! I'm in Chicago, FWIW.

    Can you elaborate? Is this the cure and hope people have been waiting for? TBH, haven't read a lot about Covid-19 lately, it gets overwhelming.
  • Fuzzipeg
    Fuzzipeg Posts: 2,305 Member
    Hearing UK news this morning, 7-00am. There is a pill going into a London hospital on trial it is hoped it will ease the respiritory issues connected to this virus. The expectation is, if it does do the business, going into production then it will be available internationally. Regretably, Success is not a given.
  • Athijade
    Athijade Posts: 3,390 Member
    MikePfirrman wrote: »

    I did that too last week. I'm Celiac and my wife is highly allergic to cow dairy, so I have to read every label very cautiously. I don't buy many packaged things for that reason, but I've had to pick things up and put them back as well. I just make sure that my hands are clean and sanitized before I go in and try to not do it very much, if at all.

    It's a good thing you feel guilty. At least it shows you're trying to be very conscientious.

    From what I'm reading, surfaces aren't nearly as bad of an issue as once thought. It's more air and ventilation systems carrying the virus inside.

    I don't buy many packaged items in general, but I do like to keep some "emergency" meals on hand. So canned soup or frozen items for those nights/days when my body just says "no more". Happened last Thursday (I have a back injury and was not sleeping at all due to pain). No way was I going to be able to chop vegetables and make a meal. So it was soup for lunch and a frozen meal for dinner.

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