Coronavirus prep

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  • Posts: 34,458 Member
    Did T1D already post that? The video is from his area and I know he's all over the stories...
  • Posts: 9,520 Member
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »

    How do you keep and track a "no shop list" for a Wal-Mart Supercenter, large grocery store, etc? Does the greeter ask everyone for an ID when they come to the entrance then check it to a database?

    A no-shop list doesn't have to be based on discrimination. It could be based on qualification. You're disqualified at the door if you don't meet the requirements. No database needed for that. No mask - no entry.
  • Posts: 34,688 Member
    Did T1D already post that? The video is from his area and I know he's all over the stories...

    I don't think so. If he did, I missed it. Thanks for it - helpful!
  • Posts: 971 Member
    I have heard a bunch of ideas being tossed around for school reopening - all virtual, part time (in class 2-3 days a week), alternating weeks, can’t remember some of the others.

    we homeschool so it’s not a huge deal to us what they decide, but my heart breaks for the students that need the school system - for food, support, and even safety. I know there are many out there with horrendous home lives and it crushes me to think about what they are going through...
  • Posts: 11,502 Member
    Did T1D already post that? The video is from his area and I know he's all over the stories...

    No, I had not noticed this one.
  • Posts: 3,788 Member
    I have 3 kids in elementary school and our school district (Kansas) is making a decision by the end of next week. My thoughts, if any district moves to virtual learning then the government needs to put another act in place to cover those parents to work from home or take off with some sort of pay. Right now, the FFCRA only covers up to 12 weeks off with 2/3 pay until the end of 2020. And not all employers are required to comply with the FFCRA.
  • Posts: 2,500 Member
    RE: Schools reopening:

    In VA, we've been talking about reopening schools, but their requirements are, to be frank, ridiculous and impossible. They've set standards for 6 feet between children, or at least three feet with masks. Staggering seats on the bus and sitting 1 person to a seat.

    Do they have any concept of what these requirements would look like, logistically? They'd have to have so many more school busses, to keep kids in school on time. Not to mention a ton of extra space in the schools themselves, with a nonexistent budget for any of it.

    Either they're putting these requirements out with the knowledge that they're not going to be able to be enforced, to wash their hands of the fact that they won't be enforced, or they'll make the smart decision and not open schools, citing these requirements.

    SMH.

    ETA: I suppose they could stagger kids going to school, like a 1 or 2 day a week model, much reduced number of kids that way.

    The bolded increases the spacing between kids and staff, but still brings the staff into contact with the same number of kids each week.
  • Posts: 96 Member
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    Is anyone else afraid about the possibility of schools reopening??
    All my kids are way over that age but my dh works at a private high school and they usually have about 150-200 dorm students each year, from everywhere. I know it's still about 6 weeks away from now but Honestly, I don't foresee a better environment anytime soon. I just think of all the little kids and worried parents who will have to deal with this. :( I know the world is aching to get back to 'normal' but at the price of subjecting the children? :(

    I have to say that I am hoping and praying my kids go back to school in a few weeks. They attend a private high school, that while they did the absolute best they could in the circumstances, that did not provide the high level of education that I have come to expect. They are set up for some online learning but not a fully online program. I can understand that some teachers might be reluctant, but many kids need that inperson attention and they can't get that through a screen. I know my kids each struggled in a couple classes because they just weren't able to learn the subject online (math for one, latin for another). They aren't/can't repeat these years and they need this education to move forward. How will we ever catch up the kids that don't have involved parents or parents that don't have the time to help their kids? We are failing the kids if we insist on online only.

    Plus what about the kids who rely on the school for breakfast/lunch? For catching cases of abuse or neglect? Or just the fact that they are kids and NEED that social interaction. I'm not sure what the answer really is, but I don't think it's keeping the kids at home for another semester or year.
  • Posts: 3,751 Member
    Here in PA, when they went to online school about 1/3 of the kids in some districts never logged in. If they don't have a parent to push them to follow the lectures and do the work, they just fall farther and farther behind.
  • Posts: 96 Member
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »

    Regarding private schools, IMO if the parents chose to send their kids they should continue to support the school through tuition even if remote learning if they want the school to be there when this is over. If not they should send them to public school.

    Maybe they should but paying 30 grand for the 20-21 school year for me means the kids should be on campus. The level of education that they get online is not comparable and that is a ton of money for them to sit in their bedroom and get a lesser education (though still better than the local public school probably).
  • Posts: 34,688 Member

    Yep, this one is pretty simple.

    For the actual "no shop lists," I am not sure if any stores have facial recognition software in their security systems. But even when they don't, I know that security often reviews photos regularly enoigh that people are often noticed. Not sure how that works for Wal-Mart with multiple locations and huge amounts of people. Maybe they look at just photos from that store or region? I do know that I've heard of people getting arrested (for trespassing) when returning after being told they were banned.

    It has been a few years, but similar thing with casinos. Back when I was in Iowa, I know of at least one casino that interfaced their systems with the county sheriff to identify based on membership cards. So even if they let yoi through at the door (you look old enough and they didn't scan your ID), if you sit down at a slot machine and put your card in, they know you are there. And if you have any warrants, it doesn't take long for the cops to show up. This is in addition to that even if you don't have warrants, anyone banned by the casino seems to be caught often. I had a friend whose wife got talked into putting herself on the banned list voluntarily at one casino (this is usually for people who are trying to overcome addiction). Without fail, she was noticed every single time she tried. After getting arrested 3 times, she gave up with that casino.

    I'm finding it surprising that people have acted as if "no-shop lists" from stores are a new thing, when they've been around in one form or another for decades. As I haven't ever worked in retail, I'm appreciating your insights about how it works in practice: Interesting.
  • Posts: 96 Member
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »

    Then the parents should just pull them and homeschool or send to public school. They apparently thought the school was better, if they don't support it, it will be gone post-virus.

    Should people be giving less to their places of worship because an on-line experience isn't as good as live?

    I think there's a large difference between a school and a place of worship.

    Taking away the social aspects of a physical school-sports, extracurriculars, band, choir, things that just don't translate well to an online environment which is a large part of why people send their kids yo a private school plus the fact that many kids can't learn as easily online makes me think schools should open. Sure if you want to keep your kid home and still pay thats great but the rest of us should get what we are paying for.

    Plus you sign contracts in the spring for the next school year so its not always an option to change at this point.
  • Posts: 9,520 Member
    I just went to 7-11 to get tea. Only me, one clerk at the cash register with mask on, one clerk with no mask, no gloves, wiping counters beside the tea, in the store.
    The clerk wiping counters was talking on her phone. She said something like, “I don’t have a temperature and I don’t feel sick at all. And I’m not around her much at all. I was over there for a while yesterday.”
    That’s all I heard as I was backing away from her and getting the h—- out of there.
    At 7-11.
    How many customers during her shift?

    This is crazy. She was exposed and chose to be at work as usual. Most likely an hourly rate job with no pay if they're no hours on the clock. So she'll definitely not tell her boss she needs to stay home voluntarily for a little while.
  • Posts: 7,887 Member
    Here in PA, when they went to online school about 1/3 of the kids in some districts never logged in. If they don't have a parent to push them to follow the lectures and do the work, they just fall farther and farther behind.

    Yeah, this is a big problem across the country, I think.
  • Posts: 8,159 Member

    We homeschool as well, so I have no dog in this fight, but all the staggered/alternating schedule proposals seem a Logistical nightmare for working parents, teachers themselves (esp those with school age children!), and parents with multiple children in multiple schools. Yet going back as normal doesn’t seem feasible or prudent.

    I can’t see how many private schools will stay afloat either—I could not justify paying full tuition for virtual classes or half the in person classes, especially for elementary students.

    I already know 5 families personally who have already decided they are homeschooling this year bc of all this, leaving both private and public schools, and at least one more waiting on the final call from school system about policies to decide. The local ps here has said that special needs students who receive services/therapies at school will be going back, at least part time.

    Home schooling is not an option for most parents for many reasons. Taking a bread winner out of the work place can be expensive and the home schooling mental/emotional toll can be huge. We are told millions of homes will be going into foreclosure and even vehicles. Kids often suffers the most when society starts collapsing for any reason and we are being told by Bill Gates and others that pandemic after pandemic can be expected every 10-20 years going forward.

    UK has 13 colleges in danger of failing due to locking their doors was in the news the other day. Many restaurants are closing because of social distancing rules. Millions world wide are unemployed and many have no company left to return to some day. Today's news that MFP is up for sale by UA is an in our face fact after paying nearly half a billion for it like 5 years ago that the go go years are taking leave for more and more kids and their families.

    My hat is off to people who can do the homeschooling successful. We read how home schooled kids typically do better with the college experience thing. I expect you are correct about more families home schooling going forward since it has become more common for years in the areas where the public school systems have been at risk for years.

    Coronavirus prep is turning into more than a toilet paper and food problem. It has wrecked retirement plans and the financial stability of many children already and is expected to impact generations going forward due to side effects appearing today.

    The are no simple solutions and yes the toll on the kids is a hard thing to witness and wait for someone to become creative on behalf of the kids of the world.

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