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Should your S.O./Spouse have a say so if they feel you are too thin or too large?
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Chef_Barbell wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Medicine and bed rest cannot make you gain weight in a vacuum. If you over eat, you gain weight. Pregnancy is also not a reason to gain excessive amounts of weight. Being pregnant does not mean eating for two, either.
There is one reason why people become overweight or obese. That reason is always excessive caloric intake, and it is never something that happens to an adult (absent developmental issues like Downs or Prader-Willi) in a vacuum without the active participation of the person gaining the weight. Nobody gets fat against their own will.
You sound so dreamy. *swoon*
I am cold and I am hard and my name is...2 -
heiliskrimsli wrote: »Medicine and bed rest cannot make you gain weight in a vacuum. If you over eat, you gain weight. Pregnancy is also not a reason to gain excessive amounts of weight. Being pregnant does not mean eating for two, either.
There is one reason why people become overweight or obese. That reason is always excessive caloric intake, and it is never something that happens to an adult (absent developmental issues like Downs or Prader-Willi) in a vacuum without the active participation of the person gaining the weight. Nobody gets fat against their own will.
Are you a doctor?
What does that have to do with the laws of thermodynamics?
Mass cannot be created out of nothing. Your body cannot generate more of it unless you are supplying it with the source material to do so. If you are not eating a caloric surplus you will not gain weight from fat.STLBADGIRL wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Medicine and bed rest cannot make you gain weight in a vacuum. If you over eat, you gain weight. Pregnancy is also not a reason to gain excessive amounts of weight. Being pregnant does not mean eating for two, either.
There is one reason why people become overweight or obese. That reason is always excessive caloric intake, and it is never something that happens to an adult (absent developmental issues like Downs or Prader-Willi) in a vacuum without the active participation of the person gaining the weight. Nobody gets fat against their own will.
Hmmmmmm. Just hmmmmmmmm for this response..... But on the bold part, as harsh as this may seem - it may be valid. And this was a hard realization for myself. It sucks when someone else says it...but it may just may be true if we are keeping it real.
Facts do not care whether your feelings like them or not. They are still true.7 -
You have to eat a certain amount of food when you're pregnant. If you are taking medicine that slows your metabolism, and you are on bed rest, you might gain weight. It isn't a sign of weakness or laziness to do so. Pregnant women in situations like my friend are given diets they have to follow so it isn't even up to them what they eat. If you were a doctor, you'd understand that you can't restrict calories too much when pregnant, especially if you are in a high risk pregnancy.14
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Speaking from a person that's about 40-45 lbs overweight. I initially lost 40 lbs., after I went to a personal trainer and I was at my heaviest of 192 lbs. I cried so hard when I stepped on the scale. I was going to him to lose about 10 lbs for a vacation I was planning. I had been in denial for YEARRRRRRRRRS. I literally thought I gained only 10 LBS. I knew my pants didn't fit the same, and I could tell in the mirror that I had gained a lil weight....but it was damn near 50lbs NOT 10 lbs. I cried so hard because I had NO idea that I had put on that much weight. I am being open and honest. I KNOW I contributed to my weight gain, BUT that dayum weight crept up on me before I could handle it or manage it.
A little history - I've always been bigger than what I wanted to be. A Grandmother's baby raised on all that bs food and over indulged - I was destined to be big and having to unlearn a bunch of wrong stuff. So it was natural for me to avoid mirrors and scales....etc. And that shame and denial kept me big and gaining. Now i have replaced bad habits with healthier options and I am in the know now. I don't run away from scales and mirrors....knowledge is power!8 -
You have to eat a certain amount of food when you're pregnant. If you are taking medicine that slows your metabolism, and you are on bed rest, you might gain weight. It isn't a sign of weakness or laziness to do so. Pregnant women in situations like my friend are given diets they have to follow so it isn't even up to them what they eat. If you were a doctor, you'd understand that you can't restrict calories too much when pregnant, especially if you are in a high risk pregnancy.
So much this. *smh*4 -
You have to eat a certain amount of food when you're pregnant. If you are taking medicine that slows your metabolism, and you are on bed rest, you might gain weight. It isn't a sign of weakness or laziness to do so. Pregnant women in situations like my friend are given diets they have to follow so it isn't even up to them what they eat. If you were a doctor, you'd understand that you can't restrict calories too much when pregnant, especially if you are in a high risk pregnancy.
The additional calorie needs during pregnancy are (above maintenance level when not pregnant)- The first trimester does not require any extra calories.
- During the second trimester, an additional 340 calories a day are recommended.
- For the third trimester, the recommendation is 450 calories more a day than when not pregnant.
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If your activity level is reduced due to bed rest, your TDEE and therefore your maintenance level is lower, which means the total calorie intake even with the extra requirements is lower than it would be for someone who is more active. That absolutely can be controlled for, and I don't know a single doctor who advises uncontrolled eating or weight gain during pregnancy especially in cases with complications.
While your friend may have been given a specific list of foods she should eat (what to eat), that doesn't preclude eating too much of those things, or of exceeding a reasonable calorie intake by adding additional other foods not on the list to those items.
Pregnancy, even one involving bed rest, is not a magical reason to pack on unlimited pounds.3 -
Have you actually asked doctors what they recommend to eat during high risk pregnancies? She wasn't eating in an uncontrolled manner, and I didn't say she was. She was eating enough to gain some weight, and with two pregnancies one after the other she gained a bit. Not "unlimited pounds" but enough to notice. Women do often put on weight during pregnancy. Particularly high risk pregnancies. She has since lost the weight but she had some weight gain with those two pregnancies one after the other. If your expectation is that women shouldn't gain weight during pregnancies, your will indeed go from one relationship to another during your lifetime, and you will have some child support payments to plan for.15
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heiliskrimsli wrote: »You have to eat a certain amount of food when you're pregnant. If you are taking medicine that slows your metabolism, and you are on bed rest, you might gain weight. It isn't a sign of weakness or laziness to do so. Pregnant women in situations like my friend are given diets they have to follow so it isn't even up to them what they eat. If you were a doctor, you'd understand that you can't restrict calories too much when pregnant, especially if you are in a high risk pregnancy.
The additional calorie needs during pregnancy are (above maintenance level when not pregnant)- The first trimester does not require any extra calories.
- During the second trimester, an additional 340 calories a day are recommended.
- For the third trimester, the recommendation is 450 calories more a day than when not pregnant.
Source
If your activity level is reduced due to bed rest, your TDEE and therefore your maintenance level is lower, which means the total calorie intake even with the extra requirements is lower than it would be for someone who is more active. That absolutely can be controlled for, and I don't know a single doctor who advises uncontrolled eating or weight gain during pregnancy especially in cases with complications.
While your friend may have been given a specific list of foods she should eat (what to eat), that doesn't preclude eating too much of those things, or of exceeding a reasonable calorie intake by adding additional other foods not on the list to those items.
Pregnancy, even one involving bed rest, is not a magical reason to pack on unlimited pounds.
At least one other person gets it.
I have met one woman over the years who was willing to acknowledge and admit that she was being a glutton while pregnant. She was an amateur model, so to quote her "I spend crazy amounts of time having to worry about my weight and figure. I'm taking full advantage of this crap and shoving everything in my face that I can keep down." Within three months she was back to pre-pregnancy weight, even though she was intentionally and consciously eating waaaaaay more than she needed to during the process. I'm halfway convinced that she was subconsciously restricting her intake, even though she consciously was trying to eat all of the things.3 -
Have you actually asked doctors what they recommend to eat during high risk pregnancies? She wasn't eating in an uncontrolled manner, and I didn't say she was. She was eating enough to gain some weight, and with two pregnancies one after the other she gained a bit. Not "unlimited pounds" but enough to notice. Women do often put on weight during pregnancy. Particularly high risk pregnancies. She has since lost the weight but she had some weight gain with those two pregnancies one after the other.
A normal weight woman should gain up to 25 pounds during pregnancy. Much more than that and it's excessive.If your expectation is that women shouldn't gain weight during pregnancies, your will indeed go from one relationship to another during your lifetime, and you will have some child support payments to plan for.
Your assumptions are laughable.4 -
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heiliskrimsli wrote: »Have you actually asked doctors what they recommend to eat during high risk pregnancies? She wasn't eating in an uncontrolled manner, and I didn't say she was. She was eating enough to gain some weight, and with two pregnancies one after the other she gained a bit. Not "unlimited pounds" but enough to notice. Women do often put on weight during pregnancy. Particularly high risk pregnancies. She has since lost the weight but she had some weight gain with those two pregnancies one after the other.
A normal weight woman should gain up to 25 pounds during pregnancy. Much more than that and it's excessive.If your expectation is that women shouldn't gain weight during pregnancies, your will indeed go from one relationship to another during your lifetime, and you will have some child support payments to plan for.
Your assumptions are laughable.
As are yours. :laugh:8 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Have you actually asked doctors what they recommend to eat during high risk pregnancies? She wasn't eating in an uncontrolled manner, and I didn't say she was. She was eating enough to gain some weight, and with two pregnancies one after the other she gained a bit. Not "unlimited pounds" but enough to notice. Women do often put on weight during pregnancy. Particularly high risk pregnancies. She has since lost the weight but she had some weight gain with those two pregnancies one after the other.
A normal weight woman should gain up to 25 pounds during pregnancy. Much more than that and it's excessive.If your expectation is that women shouldn't gain weight during pregnancies, your will indeed go from one relationship to another during your lifetime, and you will have some child support payments to plan for.
Your assumptions are laughable.
As are yours. :laugh:
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heiliskrimsli wrote: »
Your assumptions are laughable.
I was going to say this to you.Chef_Barbell wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Have you actually asked doctors what they recommend to eat during high risk pregnancies? She wasn't eating in an uncontrolled manner, and I didn't say she was. She was eating enough to gain some weight, and with two pregnancies one after the other she gained a bit. Not "unlimited pounds" but enough to notice. Women do often put on weight during pregnancy. Particularly high risk pregnancies. She has since lost the weight but she had some weight gain with those two pregnancies one after the other.
A normal weight woman should gain up to 25 pounds during pregnancy. Much more than that and it's excessive.If your expectation is that women shouldn't gain weight during pregnancies, your will indeed go from one relationship to another during your lifetime, and you will have some child support payments to plan for.
Your assumptions are laughable.
As are yours. :laugh:
I provided a citation regarding pregnancy weight gain, and got back the assumption that I am a shallow man who is irresponsible with birth control.
Seems so reasonable.4 -
heiliskrimsli wrote: »You have to eat a certain amount of food when you're pregnant. If you are taking medicine that slows your metabolism, and you are on bed rest, you might gain weight. It isn't a sign of weakness or laziness to do so. Pregnant women in situations like my friend are given diets they have to follow so it isn't even up to them what they eat. If you were a doctor, you'd understand that you can't restrict calories too much when pregnant, especially if you are in a high risk pregnancy.
The additional calorie needs during pregnancy are (above maintenance level when not pregnant)- The first trimester does not require any extra calories.
- During the second trimester, an additional 340 calories a day are recommended.
- For the third trimester, the recommendation is 450 calories more a day than when not pregnant.
Source
If your activity level is reduced due to bed rest, your TDEE and therefore your maintenance level is lower, which means the total calorie intake even with the extra requirements is lower than it would be for someone who is more active. That absolutely can be controlled for, and I don't know a single doctor who advises uncontrolled eating or weight gain during pregnancy especially in cases with complications.
While your friend may have been given a specific list of foods she should eat (what to eat), that doesn't preclude eating too much of those things, or of exceeding a reasonable calorie intake by adding additional other foods not on the list to those items.
Pregnancy, even one involving bed rest, is not a magical reason to pack on unlimited pounds.
That's all well and good until you're so sick 24/7 that you want to die and the only thing that holds the nausea back is nibbling on saltine crackers and sipping ginger ale. Yes, it is possible to gain weight with morning sickness. But that doesn't file well under your 'this is the one true way' philosophy. Nor do any number of other crazy things that happen when one is growing a person.13 -
heiliskrimsli wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »
Your assumptions are laughable.
I was going to say this to you.Chef_Barbell wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Have you actually asked doctors what they recommend to eat during high risk pregnancies? She wasn't eating in an uncontrolled manner, and I didn't say she was. She was eating enough to gain some weight, and with two pregnancies one after the other she gained a bit. Not "unlimited pounds" but enough to notice. Women do often put on weight during pregnancy. Particularly high risk pregnancies. She has since lost the weight but she had some weight gain with those two pregnancies one after the other.
A normal weight woman should gain up to 25 pounds during pregnancy. Much more than that and it's excessive.If your expectation is that women shouldn't gain weight during pregnancies, your will indeed go from one relationship to another during your lifetime, and you will have some child support payments to plan for.
Your assumptions are laughable.
As are yours. :laugh:
I provided a citation regarding pregnancy weight gain, and got back the assumption that I am a shallow man who is irresponsible with birth control.
Seems so reasonable.
About as reasonable as the expectation that every pregnancy is going to go according to some citation.12 -
I'm not that impressed by Dr. Google citations from a search engine that is not familiar (and was probably not asked) about the myriad of complications that can go along with pregnancy.4
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heiliskrimsli wrote: »You have to eat a certain amount of food when you're pregnant. If you are taking medicine that slows your metabolism, and you are on bed rest, you might gain weight. It isn't a sign of weakness or laziness to do so. Pregnant women in situations like my friend are given diets they have to follow so it isn't even up to them what they eat. If you were a doctor, you'd understand that you can't restrict calories too much when pregnant, especially if you are in a high risk pregnancy.
The additional calorie needs during pregnancy are (above maintenance level when not pregnant)- The first trimester does not require any extra calories.
- During the second trimester, an additional 340 calories a day are recommended.
- For the third trimester, the recommendation is 450 calories more a day than when not pregnant.
Source
If your activity level is reduced due to bed rest, your TDEE and therefore your maintenance level is lower, which means the total calorie intake even with the extra requirements is lower than it would be for someone who is more active. That absolutely can be controlled for, and I don't know a single doctor who advises uncontrolled eating or weight gain during pregnancy especially in cases with complications.
While your friend may have been given a specific list of foods she should eat (what to eat), that doesn't preclude eating too much of those things, or of exceeding a reasonable calorie intake by adding additional other foods not on the list to those items.
Pregnancy, even one involving bed rest, is not a magical reason to pack on unlimited pounds.
That's all well and good until you're so sick 24/7 that you want to die and the only thing that holds the nausea back is nibbling on saltine crackers and sipping ginger ale. Yes, it is possible to gain weight with morning sickness. But that doesn't file well under your 'this is the one true way' philosophy. Nor do any number of other crazy things that happen when one is growing a person.
Could you explain to me the metabolic process by which vomiting causes weight gain?I'm not that impressed by Dr. Google citations from a search engine that is not familiar (and was probably not asked) about the myriad of complications that can go along with pregnancy.
How about The US National Library of Medicine?.
Are they qualified enough for you?1 -
heiliskrimsli wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »You have to eat a certain amount of food when you're pregnant. If you are taking medicine that slows your metabolism, and you are on bed rest, you might gain weight. It isn't a sign of weakness or laziness to do so. Pregnant women in situations like my friend are given diets they have to follow so it isn't even up to them what they eat. If you were a doctor, you'd understand that you can't restrict calories too much when pregnant, especially if you are in a high risk pregnancy.
The additional calorie needs during pregnancy are (above maintenance level when not pregnant)- The first trimester does not require any extra calories.
- During the second trimester, an additional 340 calories a day are recommended.
- For the third trimester, the recommendation is 450 calories more a day than when not pregnant.
Source
If your activity level is reduced due to bed rest, your TDEE and therefore your maintenance level is lower, which means the total calorie intake even with the extra requirements is lower than it would be for someone who is more active. That absolutely can be controlled for, and I don't know a single doctor who advises uncontrolled eating or weight gain during pregnancy especially in cases with complications.
While your friend may have been given a specific list of foods she should eat (what to eat), that doesn't preclude eating too much of those things, or of exceeding a reasonable calorie intake by adding additional other foods not on the list to those items.
Pregnancy, even one involving bed rest, is not a magical reason to pack on unlimited pounds.
That's all well and good until you're so sick 24/7 that you want to die and the only thing that holds the nausea back is nibbling on saltine crackers and sipping ginger ale. Yes, it is possible to gain weight with morning sickness. But that doesn't file well under your 'this is the one true way' philosophy. Nor do any number of other crazy things that happen when one is growing a person.
Could you explain to me the metabolic process by which vomiting causes weight gain?I'm not that impressed by Dr. Google citations from a search engine that is not familiar (and was probably not asked) about the myriad of complications that can go along with pregnancy.
How about The US National Library of Medicine?.
Are they qualified enough for you?
Some women experience ongoing nausea without vomiting. I vomited a total of 1 time in 2 pregnancies.4 -
This part from the website you referenced is good:
"The amount of healthy weight gain in pregnancy varies. These are general guidelines:"8 -
I also like how you said earlier that a woman should gain "up to 25 pounds" earlier when your website says the general guideline is 25 to 35 pounds.9
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heiliskrimsli wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »You have to eat a certain amount of food when you're pregnant. If you are taking medicine that slows your metabolism, and you are on bed rest, you might gain weight. It isn't a sign of weakness or laziness to do so. Pregnant women in situations like my friend are given diets they have to follow so it isn't even up to them what they eat. If you were a doctor, you'd understand that you can't restrict calories too much when pregnant, especially if you are in a high risk pregnancy.
The additional calorie needs during pregnancy are (above maintenance level when not pregnant)- The first trimester does not require any extra calories.
- During the second trimester, an additional 340 calories a day are recommended.
- For the third trimester, the recommendation is 450 calories more a day than when not pregnant.
Source
If your activity level is reduced due to bed rest, your TDEE and therefore your maintenance level is lower, which means the total calorie intake even with the extra requirements is lower than it would be for someone who is more active. That absolutely can be controlled for, and I don't know a single doctor who advises uncontrolled eating or weight gain during pregnancy especially in cases with complications.
While your friend may have been given a specific list of foods she should eat (what to eat), that doesn't preclude eating too much of those things, or of exceeding a reasonable calorie intake by adding additional other foods not on the list to those items.
Pregnancy, even one involving bed rest, is not a magical reason to pack on unlimited pounds.
That's all well and good until you're so sick 24/7 that you want to die and the only thing that holds the nausea back is nibbling on saltine crackers and sipping ginger ale. Yes, it is possible to gain weight with morning sickness. But that doesn't file well under your 'this is the one true way' philosophy. Nor do any number of other crazy things that happen when one is growing a person.
Could you explain to me the metabolic process by which vomiting causes weight gain?I'm not that impressed by Dr. Google citations from a search engine that is not familiar (and was probably not asked) about the myriad of complications that can go along with pregnancy.
How about The US National Library of Medicine?.
Are they qualified enough for you?
Some women experience ongoing nausea without vomiting. I vomited a total of 1 time in 2 pregnancies.
How, specifically, does nausea cause weight gain?1 -
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heiliskrimsli wrote: »
So much irony here.10 -
heiliskrimsli wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »You have to eat a certain amount of food when you're pregnant. If you are taking medicine that slows your metabolism, and you are on bed rest, you might gain weight. It isn't a sign of weakness or laziness to do so. Pregnant women in situations like my friend are given diets they have to follow so it isn't even up to them what they eat. If you were a doctor, you'd understand that you can't restrict calories too much when pregnant, especially if you are in a high risk pregnancy.
The additional calorie needs during pregnancy are (above maintenance level when not pregnant)- The first trimester does not require any extra calories.
- During the second trimester, an additional 340 calories a day are recommended.
- For the third trimester, the recommendation is 450 calories more a day than when not pregnant.
Source
If your activity level is reduced due to bed rest, your TDEE and therefore your maintenance level is lower, which means the total calorie intake even with the extra requirements is lower than it would be for someone who is more active. That absolutely can be controlled for, and I don't know a single doctor who advises uncontrolled eating or weight gain during pregnancy especially in cases with complications.
While your friend may have been given a specific list of foods she should eat (what to eat), that doesn't preclude eating too much of those things, or of exceeding a reasonable calorie intake by adding additional other foods not on the list to those items.
Pregnancy, even one involving bed rest, is not a magical reason to pack on unlimited pounds.
That's all well and good until you're so sick 24/7 that you want to die and the only thing that holds the nausea back is nibbling on saltine crackers and sipping ginger ale. Yes, it is possible to gain weight with morning sickness. But that doesn't file well under your 'this is the one true way' philosophy. Nor do any number of other crazy things that happen when one is growing a person.
Could you explain to me the metabolic process by which vomiting causes weight gain?I'm not that impressed by Dr. Google citations from a search engine that is not familiar (and was probably not asked) about the myriad of complications that can go along with pregnancy.
How about The US National Library of Medicine?.
Are they qualified enough for you?
Some women experience ongoing nausea without vomiting. I vomited a total of 1 time in 2 pregnancies.
How, specifically, does nausea cause weight gain?
It doesn't. Eating small amounts of simple carbs throughout the day in order to keep it at bay enough to function (because nobody gave me 9 months off life in order to perfectly orchestrate my pregnancy) can. But I truly wouldn't expect you to understand that. So by all means, continue believing that a woman has absolutely control over her body during pregnancy and gaining anything over the recommended weight makes her a failure and is a sign of some fatal character flaw.
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Well then you can see how much weight you can gain. 35 pounds times two pregnancies. Two 7-pounds babies are only 14 pounds of that. There's a bit of water weight lost too, but it's still a noticeable amount of weight gain, and that's for two normal pregnancies. Mine thankfully were pretty normal, but women I've known with high risk pregnancies have gained more, and it takes longer to take the weight off when you are tired from a baby being up at all hours and have to arrange for someone else to watch the baby while you exercise.4
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I also like how you said earlier that a woman should gain "up to 25 pounds" earlier when your website says the general guideline is 25 to 35 pounds.
Actually https://medlineplus.gov/ency/patientinstructions/000584.htm says:
"The amount of healthy weight gain in pregnancy varies. These are general guidelines:
Normal total weight gain for a healthy woman is 25 to 35 pounds (11 to 16 kg).
Overweight women should gain only 10 to 20 pounds (4 to 9 kg) during pregnancy.
Underweight women or women with multiples (twins or more) should gain 35 to 45 pounds (16 to 20 kg) in pregnancy."
Since it seems we are talking in general about being overweight, "Overweight women should gain only 10 to 20 pounds (4 to 9 kg) during pregnancy." appears to be applicable.
But back to the discussion...
If my spouse is looking unhealthy, I say something.
Last time I said something she ended up going to a doctor for an insurance check-up and ended up on transfusions.
Previously I told her that her diet (as a vegetarian) was poor and a doctor eventually told her to eat more fish at least.
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Well then you can see how much weight you can gain. 35 pounds times two pregnancies. Two 7-pounds babies are only 14 pounds of that. There's a bit of water weight lost too, but it's still a noticeable amount of weight gain, and that's for two normal pregnancies. Mine thankfully were pretty normal, but women I've known with high risk pregnancies have gained more, and it takes longer to take the weight off when you are tired from a baby being up at all hours and have to arrange for someone else to watch the baby while you exercise.
So you think that the majority of weight gained during pregnancy is supposed to be permanent?
Most of it should be baby and additional fluids including increased blood supply, and most women who stay within the guidelines are capable of losing that additional weight pretty quickly. Those who breastfeed even more so.2 -
I also like how you said earlier that a woman should gain "up to 25 pounds" earlier when your website says the general guideline is 25 to 35 pounds.
Actually it says:
"The amount of healthy weight gain in pregnancy varies. These are general guidelines:
Normal total weight gain for a healthy woman is 25 to 35 pounds (11 to 16 kg).
Overweight women should gain only 10 to 20 pounds (4 to 9 kg) during pregnancy.
Underweight women or women with multiples (twins or more) should gain 35 to 45 pounds (16 to 20 kg) in pregnancy."
Since it seems we are talking in general about being overweight, "Overweight women should gain only 10 to 20 pounds (4 to 9 kg) during pregnancy." appears to be applicable.
But back to the discussion...
No the debate is weight gain. Can go from normal weight to over weight by getting pregnant.2 -
I'm talking about a scenario where a normal weight woman gets pregnant, gains 35 pounds, then immediately has another pregnancy and gains another 35 pounds. 70 pounds, and then take away the weight of the babies and water weight from the pregnancy, and you're still dealing with someone who is now overweight and will have trouble taking that weight off quickly with two tiny kids.
You said you are unable to have sex with overweight women, so the already overweight women who gets pregnant couldn't happen in your case.7 -
I never said it was supposed to be permanent, in fact I said the opposite. Some of it, as I said, is the baby, some is fluids with the pregnancy, but you're still stuck with a lot of weight. Breastfeeding does help, but also makes it harder to get away to exercise. Most women don't lose the weight that quickly, especially those who get pregnant right away again.4
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