Coronavirus prep

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  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    edited August 2020
    I am so frustrated with people.

    My husband and I tried to go on an early walk this morning on a local trail.

    The trail was PACKED with large groups of runners...all geared up in their marathon shirts, running in tightly packed groups of 10-12 people. A few wearing masks, but most not. All were talking loudly, laughing, obviously breathing heavily, right in each other's faces. There were people of all ages...some definitely old enough to be in a high-risk category.

    After encountering about 6-7 of these groups, we abandoned our walk, doubled back and went home. We had our masks on, but the trail is narrow, without much room to move out of their way. The runners were also unwilling to interrupt their conversations and pass us single file so we could have more room.

    There were a few other people we saw walking...an elderly couple decided to abandon the trail at the same time we did. The older gentleman said to his wife "This is not worth it."

    All of the cancelled official races have led to people doing "virtual" marathons, which is obviously what that was this morning. What is the point of cancelling the race if people are just going to get together in big groups anyways?

    This is why this virus is not going away.

    I agree this virus is not going away shortly. Events that goes against COVID suggestions and mandates risk lawsuits where the unsanctioned events are just people being people.
  • ReenieHJ
    ReenieHJ Posts: 9,724 Member
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    Athijade wrote: »
    So update on schools here...

    Another one of the schools that reopened already has 2 confirmed positive tests on teachers. Teachers who have has contact with other teachers, admins, and students.

    This is just gonna go bad.

    Very bad per stories out of other places.

    I really wish they'd not reopen schools until, at the very least, the 2nd half of the school year. Yes, it'll be tough but maybe, just maybe, things will be a little better by then. With everyone travelling now, and seeing as how we're already hearing of it spreading with the earlier opening schools, you'd think they'd wait. :( They may not have a choice when too many of the teachers and staff start getting it. :(

    Stay healthy everyone, please!!!

    This thing is just getting too large to wrap one's head around.

    Sadly there are more than a few parents that want the kids out of the house at any cost.

    Both these statements are so true. And scary as well.
  • mockchoc
    mockchoc Posts: 6,573 Member
    edited August 2020
    Never mind.
  • mockchoc
    mockchoc Posts: 6,573 Member
    Morning all.. :) Well, crap hit the fan in Victoria and I fear Sydney is on its way. Australia was doing so well, a month ago I could almost see things getting back to normalish. Businesses were opening back up, restrictions lifting then "boom" cases have spiralled out of control in Victoria, borders were tightened but too late.
    Hot spots all over Sydney now. 😒
    I shake my head at the unbelievable selfishness of people, these 3 ladies couldn't have cared less about anyone but themselves.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-30/coronavirus-queensland-three-women-charged/12508498

    Stay safe and well everyone ..

    And they were thieves Jo. Not sure about the ladies part still.
  • debtay123
    debtay123 Posts: 1,327 Member
    edited August 2020
    GaleHawkins-Oh No- and can't they see how we in the USA are sick and dying-- the Germans nor any other country -they do not need to "follow" us esp. in rebelling at health officials trying to keep us safe- no sir- not at all!!!!


    https://apnews.com/ef70c1af702b89c23e71fcd843e63293--your link
  • slimgirljo15
    slimgirljo15 Posts: 269,456 Member
    mockchoc wrote: »
    Morning all.. :) Well, crap hit the fan in Victoria and I fear Sydney is on its way. Australia was doing so well, a month ago I could almost see things getting back to normalish. Businesses were opening back up, restrictions lifting then "boom" cases have spiralled out of control in Victoria, borders were tightened but too late.
    Hot spots all over Sydney now. 😒
    I shake my head at the unbelievable selfishness of people, these 3 ladies couldn't have cared less about anyone but themselves.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-30/coronavirus-queensland-three-women-charged/12508498

    Stay safe and well everyone ..

    And they were thieves Jo. Not sure about the ladies part still.

    Yes, I did read somewhere that part of the reason for their deception was a shoplifting spree.
    ythannah wrote: »
    Morning all.. :) Well, crap hit the fan in Victoria and I fear Sydney is on its way. Australia was doing so well, a month ago I could almost see things getting back to normalish. Businesses were opening back up, restrictions lifting then "boom" cases have spiralled out of control in Victoria, borders were tightened but too late.
    Hot spots all over Sydney now. 😒
    I shake my head at the unbelievable selfishness of people, these 3 ladies couldn't have cared less about anyone but themselves.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-30/coronavirus-queensland-three-women-charged/12508498

    Stay safe and well everyone ..

    Looking at that map, they could have infected hundreds traipsing around, including a medical facility.

    Sorry to hear things have gone badly in Australia. :( Some parts of Canada have seen increases but my little corner of Nowhere is still doing pretty well. I've never been so grateful to live in a remote sparsely populated place.

    Yes, they have done a great deal of damage and for a while one of them would not even say where she'd been.

    I too am lucky to be in a fairly remote area in a small town. We had 2 cases very early on but none for months now. I'm praying it stays that way.
  • mockchoc
    mockchoc Posts: 6,573 Member
    mockchoc wrote: »
    Morning all.. :) Well, crap hit the fan in Victoria and I fear Sydney is on its way. Australia was doing so well, a month ago I could almost see things getting back to normalish. Businesses were opening back up, restrictions lifting then "boom" cases have spiralled out of control in Victoria, borders were tightened but too late.
    Hot spots all over Sydney now. 😒
    I shake my head at the unbelievable selfishness of people, these 3 ladies couldn't have cared less about anyone but themselves.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-30/coronavirus-queensland-three-women-charged/12508498

    Stay safe and well everyone ..

    And they were thieves Jo. Not sure about the ladies part still.

    Yes, I did read somewhere that part of the reason for their deception was a shoplifting spree.
    ythannah wrote: »
    Morning all.. :) Well, crap hit the fan in Victoria and I fear Sydney is on its way. Australia was doing so well, a month ago I could almost see things getting back to normalish. Businesses were opening back up, restrictions lifting then "boom" cases have spiralled out of control in Victoria, borders were tightened but too late.
    Hot spots all over Sydney now. 😒
    I shake my head at the unbelievable selfishness of people, these 3 ladies couldn't have cared less about anyone but themselves.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-30/coronavirus-queensland-three-women-charged/12508498

    Stay safe and well everyone ..

    Looking at that map, they could have infected hundreds traipsing around, including a medical facility.

    Sorry to hear things have gone badly in Australia. :( Some parts of Canada have seen increases but my little corner of Nowhere is still doing pretty well. I've never been so grateful to live in a remote sparsely populated place.

    Yes, they have done a great deal of damage and for a while one of them would not even say where she'd been.

    I too am lucky to be in a fairly remote area in a small town. We had 2 cases very early on but none for months now. I'm praying it stays that way.

    I love where you are. We've camped near there all our lives when young and hubby's family is from not far away too. Stay safe beautiful.
  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 9,281 Member
    Yes I am sorry to read of situation in Victoria - and NSW sounds on same projectory.
    Hopefully nipped in bud better there

    Safe states like SA and WA need to keep tight borders and careful control of any exempted entrants.

    Things are almost normal here in SA and obviously we want to keep it that way.
  • slimgirljo15
    slimgirljo15 Posts: 269,456 Member
    mockchoc wrote: »
    mockchoc wrote: »
    Morning all.. :) Well, crap hit the fan in Victoria and I fear Sydney is on its way. Australia was doing so well, a month ago I could almost see things getting back to normalish. Businesses were opening back up, restrictions lifting then "boom" cases have spiralled out of control in Victoria, borders were tightened but too late.
    Hot spots all over Sydney now. 😒
    I shake my head at the unbelievable selfishness of people, these 3 ladies couldn't have cared less about anyone but themselves.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-30/coronavirus-queensland-three-women-charged/12508498

    Stay safe and well everyone ..

    And they were thieves Jo. Not sure about the ladies part still.

    Yes, I did read somewhere that part of the reason for their deception was a shoplifting spree.
    ythannah wrote: »
    Morning all.. :) Well, crap hit the fan in Victoria and I fear Sydney is on its way. Australia was doing so well, a month ago I could almost see things getting back to normalish. Businesses were opening back up, restrictions lifting then "boom" cases have spiralled out of control in Victoria, borders were tightened but too late.
    Hot spots all over Sydney now. 😒
    I shake my head at the unbelievable selfishness of people, these 3 ladies couldn't have cared less about anyone but themselves.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-30/coronavirus-queensland-three-women-charged/12508498

    Stay safe and well everyone ..

    Looking at that map, they could have infected hundreds traipsing around, including a medical facility.

    Sorry to hear things have gone badly in Australia. :( Some parts of Canada have seen increases but my little corner of Nowhere is still doing pretty well. I've never been so grateful to live in a remote sparsely populated place.

    Yes, they have done a great deal of damage and for a while one of them would not even say where she'd been.

    I too am lucky to be in a fairly remote area in a small town. We had 2 cases very early on but none for months now. I'm praying it stays that way.

    I love where you are. We've camped near there all our lives when young and hubby's family is from not far away too. Stay safe beautiful.

    Thank you Sue, you too 🙂
    Yes I am sorry to read of situation in Victoria - and NSW sounds on same projectory.
    Hopefully nipped in bud better there

    Safe states like SA and WA need to keep tight borders and careful control of any exempted entrants.

    Things are almost normal here in SA and obviously we want to keep it that way.

    I hope you stay safe and the tight border restrictions save you from ending where we are right now. I think our borders with Victoria should have been much tighter , earlier than it was.. I just knew it wouldn't go well. 😔
    I feel New South Wales is on the edge of a precipice and we are about to fall.
  • mockchoc
    mockchoc Posts: 6,573 Member
    Yes I am sorry to read of situation in Victoria - and NSW sounds on same projectory.
    Hopefully nipped in bud better there

    Safe states like SA and WA need to keep tight borders and careful control of any exempted entrants.

    Things are almost normal here in SA and obviously we want to keep it that way.

    So do I so you are welcome to have the men kicking balls instead of us lol. Ok joking now but jez they can stay home. Make their millions down south somewhere.
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    edited August 2020
    debtay123 wrote: »
    GaleHawkins-Oh No- and can't they see how we in the USA are sick and dying-- the Germans nor any other country -they do not need to "follow" us esp. in rebelling at health officials trying to keep us safe- no sir- not at all!!!!


    https://apnews.com/ef70c1af702b89c23e71fcd843e63293--your link

    How did you break my link. :)

    https://apnews.com/ef70c1af702b89c23e71fcd843e63293

    Thousands protest in Berlin against coronavirus restrictions
    By GEIR MOULSON
    yesterday
  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 9,281 Member
    mockchoc wrote: »
    Yes I am sorry to read of situation in Victoria - and NSW sounds on same projectory.
    Hopefully nipped in bud better there

    Safe states like SA and WA need to keep tight borders and careful control of any exempted entrants.

    Things are almost normal here in SA and obviously we want to keep it that way.

    So do I so you are welcome to have the men kicking balls instead of us lol. Ok joking now but jez they can stay home. Make their millions down south somewhere.
    mockchoc wrote: »
    Yes I am sorry to read of situation in Victoria - and NSW sounds on same projectory.
    Hopefully nipped in bud better there

    Safe states like SA and WA need to keep tight borders and careful control of any exempted entrants.

    Things are almost normal here in SA and obviously we want to keep it that way.

    So do I so you are welcome to have the men kicking balls instead of us lol. Ok joking now but jez they can stay home. Make their millions down south somewhere.

    Haha. :D

    I'd love to get to an AFL match again, I usually go to a couple a year.

    Won't be happening this year with limited crowd numbers - and my team isn't worth watching this year anyway. :o;):*

  • ReenieHJ
    ReenieHJ Posts: 9,724 Member
    kimny72 wrote: »
    When Virginia's guidelines said no group gatherings over 10 people, my family said having a family dinner would be fine because it's 9 people. I tried to explain that I didn't care what the state guidelines were, there wasn't room for all 9 of us to sit and eat far enough apart indoors. I'm shocked by how much most people (Americans, at least) want to grasp onto any out-of-context detail that just makes everything ok. As someone who lives alone and is working from home, I know how the loneliness can weigh on you. I'm afraid I'm missing important time with my little nephews, and my parents. But we are making this so much worse than it needs to be by not just swallowing our medicine and getting it over with!

    Exactly. And I'm afraid we're simply going to limp along until the day when everyone can get a vaccine, which IMO will be quite awhile. :(
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    baconslave wrote: »
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    kimny72 wrote: »
    When Virginia's guidelines said no group gatherings over 10 people, my family said having a family dinner would be fine because it's 9 people. I tried to explain that I didn't care what the state guidelines were, there wasn't room for all 9 of us to sit and eat far enough apart indoors. I'm shocked by how much most people (Americans, at least) want to grasp onto any out-of-context detail that just makes everything ok. As someone who lives alone and is working from home, I know how the loneliness can weigh on you. I'm afraid I'm missing important time with my little nephews, and my parents. But we are making this so much worse than it needs to be by not just swallowing our medicine and getting it over with!

    Exactly. And I'm afraid we're simply going to limp along until the day when everyone can get a vaccine, which IMO will be quite awhile. :(

    That is exactly what is going to happen. It will be a long, slow, agonizing burn.
    And it didn't need to be this way.




    Agreed.

    As to a vaccine, it's going to take time, but there is an ethical argument made to support reducing the amount of time it takes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIcEBLPpRds
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    kimny72 wrote: »
    I live in AZ now, but I'm a huge (and hopeless) Bengals fan. NFL fans are hoping the season gets played and if you pay any attention to the draft, Joe Burrow is now a Bengal, so fans are even more excited about Cincinnati.

    I personally don't see an NFL season happening, as much as I'd like it to. They, like MLB and the NBA, are allowing players to "opt out" of the season. Here's the thing with football players. Be definition, O-linemen are obese. They have to be to be 300 plus pounds. It's part of the job.

    I'd be curious how other football fans feel. Though I'd love to see my team play this year, I have no desire for anyone to die for my entertainment.

    Every professional league and university athletic program is desperate for their seasons to start. Even if they can't host fans, they need the TV revenue. They are trying to preserve their profitability and their jobs, regardless of the risk to players and staff.

    So, far, the NBA and NHL have been successful in restarting their seasons ONLY because they are keeping players and staff in a quarantined "bubble" in host/hub cities. No travel, no going home, no outside food, no families, no women.

    MLB opted for allowing teams to play in their home ballparks, travel to other team's ballparks, stay at their own homes in their home cities. And now you see the Miami Marlins have a huge outbreak with at least 17 players testing positive. That was in the first week of play. This will happen to other baseball teams, and I will be very surprised if the MLB season plays through to its conclusion.

    The NFL will be in the same boat, since they are also allowing teams to play in their home facilities. They may have a slight advantage over MLB, with travel only once a week and far fewer games.

    I'm a sports fan, but I just don't see how any of this is going to work right now. As with many industries, shutting down is going to cost people their jobs, but at least they'll have their lives.

    As an NHL fan, I give them a slight edge in making it work as not only are they in a bubble but the two bubbles are in Canada.

    But as much as I will enjoy watching as many of any of these games as they can put out, I'm concerned by the sheer volume of testing supplies they are using for something that is just entertainment. Here in the US where there are still people waiting 7+ days for test results, it just doesn't seem responsible.

    The Cardinals just announced two players have tested positive, so here we go again. The worst case scenario for MLB is they don't even manage to play the season and several players or staff members see their careers ruined or even lose their lives. Not that completing the season would be worth it either, but you know what I mean.

    I keep waiting to hear the NFL cancel the season. Between the example baseball is setting, the fact you mentioned that there are obese football players, and the NFLs crappy history of taking care of their players long term, it just seems like a tragedy waiting to happen.

    At this point, the actual tests are pretty abundant...as for getting results back, that's really more of a lab thing. Places like urgent care facilities and pharmacies, etc do not have the ability to test in house, so those are sent to private labs. In New Mexico we have a number of testing places that are run by the DOH and Presbyterian hospital and those results usually come back within a day because they can do everything in house.

    Sports teams have the ability to do that lab work in house, so they really aren't taking away resources from the general public.