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lynn_glenmont wrote: »In the US here btw.
Is anyone else planning on how they may stock up before Fall/Winter? While I know we are not even out of wave 1 in most places, I also know that a Fall/Winter with Covid plus flu plus the other normal illnesses for that time of the year is going to be a mess. I am figuring out how to eat through what I have in the freezer now so I can restock. Also taking notes of what I bought this last time and did not eat or what I struggled to get this last time around.
I'm not much worried about food. There was always food in the stores during the worst of shut downs and panic buying here, even if there wasn't always everything you wanted. And I'm pretty flexible about eating what's available.
I've made a list of non-food items that were in short supply for the first two to three months (hand sanitizer, various types of household disinfectant cleaning products, soap, toilet paper, paper towels, facial tissues, vitamin D) that I feel are important for health and hygiene, and every time I go to the store I buy something from the list, which I wouldn't normally have to do every shopping trip, so I'm gradually building up a little stockpile for when the next wave hits and the store shelves empty again.
Maybe I'll think about adding things like powdered milk, powdered eggs, flour, yeast, dried beans, rice, oats, and other grains to the list, but really, I didn't make that much of a dent in my regular stock of those things during the first wave, because, as I said, it was never as if there was no food at all available to buy. Even when there was no dairy milk available, there was soy and other nondairy milk available. And when there were no fresh eggs in the grocery stores, I was able to find them at a farm stand and at a Greek bakery that started selling them for pickup orders, along with lebneh, olives, and some pantry staples.
For me part of it is the fact that I do have a slightly increased risk and my issues with masks. So I want to be prepared so I am not having to go out as much. It will also help with my anxiety if things start picking up again.
Thank you for the reminder about supplements and facial tissues. I will add those to my list to start picking up over time.
As for food I was thinking about the stuff I eat ALL the time. Like chicken, asian noodles (udons, soba, ramen), rice, coconut aminos, broths/stocks, yeast, frozen broccoli, other frozen veggies (for like soups) etc. That sort of stuff. I won't worry about things I don't eat all that much or items that I didn't have a lot of trouble finding (fresh produce or fish for example). I also learned that I don't really eat canned veggies or canned soup since making them both fresh is just as easy. I'm not worried about bread as long as I have yeast and flour. Easier to make my own anyway due to food allergies and restrictions.
I know I may come across as a bit... crazy. I just want to feel prepared for what I KNOW is going to be a bad fall/winter.
I'm thinking now might be a better time to do Christmas shopping. I'm joking, kind of.5 -
Egads. So dh and I went to our favorite local furniture store this a.m., in search of a kitchen table. Small town, local store, very conscientious ads clarifying what the owner requests shoppers do to stay safe(even to the point of offering to make appointments during off hours if preferred). You walk in the front door, there's a table offering disposable masks, gloves, hand sanitizer, a sign in book, and a sign that gives all the standard advice about distancing, etc. and asks you to wait for someone to assist you. Very cool indeed.
The owner comes and greets us, wearing his mask, directs us to where we want to be, and as we're looking at kitchen tables, in walks a family of 5, including a couple small children, no masks, no social distancing whatsoever.
A small town just over the border from us, 20 minutes away, has been seeing a LOT of travelers coming in and many of their shops require their shoppers wear masks. No mask-no service. The newspaper says our 2 small states are starting to gain in numbers, not much(Thankful we're pretty rural areas) BUT all it takes is one, right? And with tourists evidently still choosing to travel(especially without masks))who knows what they're bringing in from where???
With all the reopening and people seemingly throwing caution to the wind, WTH did everybody expect to have happen to Covid-19?? It sure wasn't going to run away in fear. And here we will be, once again(did we ever leave?)stressed to the max, deaths pinballing all over the place, etc., etc. It frustrates me and saddens me, not to mention makes me angry that we're all going to be back at square 1 after trying so hard for so long to do what's right for ourselves and everyone else.
Reopening-good idea
Following safety precautions-excellent idea
Ignoring and being in denial-dumb dumb dumb
Get real and think.16 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »In the US here btw.
Is anyone else planning on how they may stock up before Fall/Winter? While I know we are not even out of wave 1 in most places, I also know that a Fall/Winter with Covid plus flu plus the other normal illnesses for that time of the year is going to be a mess. I am figuring out how to eat through what I have in the freezer now so I can restock. Also taking notes of what I bought this last time and did not eat or what I struggled to get this last time around.
I'm not much worried about food. There was always food in the stores during the worst of shut downs and panic buying here, even if there wasn't always everything you wanted. And I'm pretty flexible about eating what's available.
I've made a list of non-food items that were in short supply for the first two to three months (hand sanitizer, various types of household disinfectant cleaning products, soap, toilet paper, paper towels, facial tissues, vitamin D) that I feel are important for health and hygiene, and every time I go to the store I buy something from the list, which I wouldn't normally have to do every shopping trip, so I'm gradually building up a little stockpile for when the next wave hits and the store shelves empty again.
Maybe I'll think about adding things like powdered milk, powdered eggs, flour, yeast, dried beans, rice, oats, and other grains to the list, but really, I didn't make that much of a dent in my regular stock of those things during the first wave, because, as I said, it was never as if there was no food at all available to buy. Even when there was no dairy milk available, there was soy and other nondairy milk available. And when there were no fresh eggs in the grocery stores, I was able to find them at a farm stand and at a Greek bakery that started selling them for pickup orders, along with lebneh, olives, and some pantry staples.
For me part of it is the fact that I do have a slightly increased risk and my issues with masks. So I want to be prepared so I am not having to go out as much. It will also help with my anxiety if things start picking up again.
Thank you for the reminder about supplements and facial tissues. I will add those to my list to start picking up over time.
As for food I was thinking about the stuff I eat ALL the time. Like chicken, asian noodles (udons, soba, ramen), rice, coconut aminos, broths/stocks, yeast, frozen broccoli, other frozen veggies (for like soups) etc. That sort of stuff. I won't worry about things I don't eat all that much or items that I didn't have a lot of trouble finding (fresh produce or fish for example). I also learned that I don't really eat canned veggies or canned soup since making them both fresh is just as easy. I'm not worried about bread as long as I have yeast and flour. Easier to make my own anyway due to food allergies and restrictions.
I know I may come across as a bit... crazy. I just want to feel prepared for what I KNOW is going to be a bad fall/winter.
I'm thinking now might be a better time to do Christmas shopping. I'm joking, kind of.
I was thinking today that this year Xmas gifts will be a check or gift cards that can be bought on line. I am not venturing out to the stores at my age, with all the crazy holiday crowd until there is a vaccine in place. I am sure that my family will be happy with my decision.
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corinasue1143 wrote: »
From the article:
"The truck and trailer caught fire around 3:15 a.m. Sunday, according to Sallee Horse Vans owner Nicole Pieratt, who said an investigation into the cause of the incident is ongoing with New Jersey State Police. . . .
Multiple reports said the horse van was traveling north on the New Jersey Turnpike and struck a concrete divider."
Nothing mentioned about protestors causing this. I looked up several other articles about the incident; none of them mention any such thing, but talk about it being caused by a crash, consistent with the above.
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Just got a call from my mom in S.C. (mid 70s, she and my dad have some risk factors—obesity, diabetes for 1, lupus for the other) that they are not going to come see my brother and I in AR for the 4th, as is yearly custom. Mostly bc they’re scared to travel, by car. They would stay at my brothers and go no where else, save gas/potty stops on the drive. Brother and SIL work from home, don’t socialize, and are very cautious. I suppose we’re the weak link—husband is a physician and works in clinic and hospital settings, we’re outdoors at kids’ baseball games and soccer practices, and do see a few friends. So maybe they just don’t want us to feel bad that we’re the real reason, not the travel? Idk. 2 minutes, masked, in a bathroom, washing hands and probably hand sanitizing for good measure doesn’t seem like that much of a risk? I mean, they get gas and sometimes have to stop at a grocery store bathroom on a longer dr trip (what in normal places should be a 20’min drive can easily be an hour there w traffic) in their hometown, which is spiking just as bad as my brother’s town and points in between.
I’m sad that we won’t see them—I understand they’re nervous and are in a fairly vulnerable class, but the whole situation just makes me sad. When everyone on here says they’re not “living in fear”, that’s great. But I am starting to realize my parents may be. They haven’t see us or their grandchildren since Christmas, and have been staying home and rarely venturing out save for groceries or necessary doctors appts this whole time and each outing is full of anxiety.
I’m sorry this did not really have a point except that I’m sad. And maybe gym had too much chocolate and wine tonight.15 -
gradchica27 wrote: »...I’m sorry this did not really have a point except that I’m sad. And maybe gym had too much chocolate and wine tonight.
Wait, wut? What kinda gym do u go to? Where do I sign? 🥂🍾🍷🍸🍹🍫5 -
gradchica27 wrote: »Just got a call from my mom in S.C. (mid 70s, she and my dad have some risk factors—obesity, diabetes for 1, lupus for the other) that they are not going to come see my brother and I in AR for the 4th, as is yearly custom. Mostly bc they’re scared to travel, by car. They would stay at my brothers and go no where else, save gas/potty stops on the drive. Brother and SIL work from home, don’t socialize, and are very cautious. I suppose we’re the weak link—husband is a physician and works in clinic and hospital settings, we’re outdoors at kids’ baseball games and soccer practices, and do see a few friends. So maybe they just don’t want us to feel bad that we’re the real reason, not the travel? Idk. 2 minutes, masked, in a bathroom, washing hands and probably hand sanitizing for good measure doesn’t seem like that much of a risk? I mean, they get gas and sometimes have to stop at a grocery store bathroom on a longer dr trip (what in normal places should be a 20’min drive can easily be an hour there w traffic) in their hometown, which is spiking just as bad as my brother’s town and points in between.
I’m sad that we won’t see them—I understand they’re nervous and are in a fairly vulnerable class, but the whole situation just makes me sad. When everyone on here says they’re not “living in fear”, that’s great. But I am starting to realize my parents may be. They haven’t see us or their grandchildren since Christmas, and have been staying home and rarely venturing out save for groceries or necessary doctors appts this whole time and each outing is full of anxiety.
I’m sorry this did not really have a point except that I’m sad. And maybe gym had too much chocolate and wine tonight.
I’m sorry you won’t get to see them. As a diabetic, though, the news for obese diabetics is terrifying - I was reading a study specifically on diabetic risk factors, type 1 vs type 2 and whether or not glucose control has an effect. A type 2 with poor glucose control who gets covid-19 has 70 times the risk of death of a non-diabetic. It’s not so bad for well controlled diabetics - only 11 times the risk. That’s not 11% but 11 times. Basically if you are older, obese, and diabetic you won’t live through this. It’s only sane to live in fear at this point, especially when the Memphis area is saying more than half of current transmissions are coming from an unknown source, because it’s so widespread in the community. As for bathrooms, the virus is found in feces and aerosolized by toilet flushing, and most public toilets have no lid.
Pray we get a vaccine soon, and that a vaccine is even possible, because I don’t see how any of us in a vulnerable class are going to get back to normal without one.11 -
corinasue1143 wrote: »
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »Theoldguy1 wrote: »This article says 89% of the US population has worn a mask when leaving home in the last week.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/89percent-of-americans-wear-masks-in-public-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-persists-poll/ar-BB15YDVk?ocid=ientp
Not in my 'hood.
how could they possibly know that?
It's a poll. 89% of respondents said they had worn a mask in public in the last week. I'm skeptical.
Yeah, me too from what I'm seeing, more like 30%. Some people are protecting their necks and chins with a mask, not their nose and mouth though.1 -
75 new cases in Victoria today with heaps of Victorians travelling to NSW for school holidays. I’m genuinely very concerned.8
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Hanibanani2020 wrote: »75 new cases in Victoria today with heaps of Victorians travelling to NSW for school holidays. I’m genuinely very concerned.
NSW here... I wish they'd close the border, we don't need a second wave here. It's not looking good in Victoria at all6 -
slimgirljo15 wrote: »Hanibanani2020 wrote: »75 new cases in Victoria today with heaps of Victorians travelling to NSW for school holidays. I’m genuinely very concerned.
NSW here... I wish they'd close the border, we don't need a second wave here. It's not looking good in Victoria at all
It’s terrifying. I have no idea why they’re not closing the borders!4 -
I read some medical papers that came out of Wuhan back in late January describing what they were going through over there with the new Covid19 disease and so I began staying at home and stocking up on groceries by ordering from our local store and mail ordering some staples like rice, dried beans and canned goods. I haven't been outside my apartment since first of February. Nothing I have read here or in the world wide news gives me any confidence that I should step out into my apartment hallway even if I wear a mask. Thanks to everyone here that keeps posting the truth about the Pandemic because it is supporting me and others I'm sure to stay alive and keep from spreading SARS Cov 2 to others. I'm retired and so I can and need to stay isolated. I really feel for those who must go out or work under current conditions.
It is very discouraging that many people are blocked from good reasoning and are not being sensible out there. We have to keep courage and do the right thing difficult as it is. I really believe we can and we will have a good effect if we continue to take all the measures known to avoid being infected and that this Coronavirus is going to be defeated as its flimsy paultry little greasy coating melts by soaping and its little frail wispy legs fall off and become simply more dust under our feet.6 -
Hanibani and slimgirljo - I am in SA.
we are going to open our state borders on July 20th.
Nobody I have spoken too ( and I mix with a lot of the public at work and they all have something to say about this topic) is in favour of opening borders to non safe states.
Bubbles between SA, WA, NT - yes - but thats all.
Steven Marshall, our premier, has today said the opening to states like Victoria may be reviewed and is not neccesarily going to happen as planned.
I hope not.
Nothing personal against Victorians but no point is letting it spread to other states.4 -
I love that our premier said to stay away from people from Victoria. Not sure how you’re meant to vet every single person you come across to find out their origin.2
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Went to church yesterday (my husband is assistant pastor so a bit more “pressure” to be there... I know they would be OK with us staying home, but he is active in the service so he/we want to be there for support). We have hunkered down in our own little corner by ourselves, we get there early, wear our masks, use sanitizer frequently. We have been back for a month. The first week, about 50/50 mask usage, probably a little more. This week? Our family and one father/daughter duo were the only ones. And one lady asked my husband if she did something to make hime mad. He explained to her that we were just being cautious. It wasn’t her, we weren’t really interacting with many people at all. I feel a twinge of guilt (and am definitely self-conscious) not joining in the social circles, but I also am not comfortable jumping back into normal like it appears everyone else is. I kinda expected it though, we learned early on that germ awareness was weak with several families in particular (like my son going to one church friends house for a super bowl get together and when my husband picked him up there was another kid, who we know had the flu based on conversations that morning, was conked out in the recliner - we were NOT happy).9
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rheddmobile wrote: »corinasue1143 wrote: »
Tulsa is about 1300 miles from New Jersey. .?
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rheddmobile wrote: »gradchica27 wrote: »Just got a call from my mom in S.C. (mid 70s, she and my dad have some risk factors—obesity, diabetes for 1, lupus for the other) that they are not going to come see my brother and I in AR for the 4th, as is yearly custom. Mostly bc they’re scared to travel, by car. They would stay at my brothers and go no where else, save gas/potty stops on the drive. Brother and SIL work from home, don’t socialize, and are very cautious. I suppose we’re the weak link—husband is a physician and works in clinic and hospital settings, we’re outdoors at kids’ baseball games and soccer practices, and do see a few friends. So maybe they just don’t want us to feel bad that we’re the real reason, not the travel? Idk. 2 minutes, masked, in a bathroom, washing hands and probably hand sanitizing for good measure doesn’t seem like that much of a risk? I mean, they get gas and sometimes have to stop at a grocery store bathroom on a longer dr trip (what in normal places should be a 20’min drive can easily be an hour there w traffic) in their hometown, which is spiking just as bad as my brother’s town and points in between.
I’m sad that we won’t see them—I understand they’re nervous and are in a fairly vulnerable class, but the whole situation just makes me sad. When everyone on here says they’re not “living in fear”, that’s great. But I am starting to realize my parents may be. They haven’t see us or their grandchildren since Christmas, and have been staying home and rarely venturing out save for groceries or necessary doctors appts this whole time and each outing is full of anxiety.
I’m sorry this did not really have a point except that I’m sad. And maybe gym had too much chocolate and wine tonight.
I’m sorry you won’t get to see them. As a diabetic, though, the news for obese diabetics is terrifying - I was reading a study specifically on diabetic risk factors, type 1 vs type 2 and whether or not glucose control has an effect. A type 2 with poor glucose control who gets covid-19 has 70 times the risk of death of a non-diabetic. It’s not so bad for well controlled diabetics - only 11 times the risk. That’s not 11% but 11 times. Basically if you are older, obese, and diabetic you won’t live through this. It’s only sane to live in fear at this point, especially when the Memphis area is saying more than half of current transmissions are coming from an unknown source, because it’s so widespread in the community. As for bathrooms, the virus is found in feces and aerosolized by toilet flushing, and most public toilets have no lid.
Pray we get a vaccine soon, and that a vaccine is even possible, because I don’t see how any of us in a vulnerable class are going to get back to normal without one.
I know, I know. It’s that “rationally I know xyz, but I really don’t *want* it to be true” operating. Totally irrational and I recognize that, which is why I totally understand their decision. And am thankful for somewhere to vent a little without anyone either screaming “of course you moron! They should never leave their house again no less see you!” or a Corina conspiracy type using it as a way to rant about the evils of lockdown and masks.
I’m just sad about the whole situation, and about having to tell my kids something they’ve looked forward to for so long won’t happen. When someone asks about going somewhere or doing something and the 4yo immediately says “we can’t...bc the coronavirus!” it’s just...sad.8 -
gradchica27 wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »gradchica27 wrote: »Just got a call from my mom in S.C. (mid 70s, she and my dad have some risk factors—obesity, diabetes for 1, lupus for the other) that they are not going to come see my brother and I in AR for the 4th, as is yearly custom. Mostly bc they’re scared to travel, by car. They would stay at my brothers and go no where else, save gas/potty stops on the drive. Brother and SIL work from home, don’t socialize, and are very cautious. I suppose we’re the weak link—husband is a physician and works in clinic and hospital settings, we’re outdoors at kids’ baseball games and soccer practices, and do see a few friends. So maybe they just don’t want us to feel bad that we’re the real reason, not the travel? Idk. 2 minutes, masked, in a bathroom, washing hands and probably hand sanitizing for good measure doesn’t seem like that much of a risk? I mean, they get gas and sometimes have to stop at a grocery store bathroom on a longer dr trip (what in normal places should be a 20’min drive can easily be an hour there w traffic) in their hometown, which is spiking just as bad as my brother’s town and points in between.
I’m sad that we won’t see them—I understand they’re nervous and are in a fairly vulnerable class, but the whole situation just makes me sad. When everyone on here says they’re not “living in fear”, that’s great. But I am starting to realize my parents may be. They haven’t see us or their grandchildren since Christmas, and have been staying home and rarely venturing out save for groceries or necessary doctors appts this whole time and each outing is full of anxiety.
I’m sorry this did not really have a point except that I’m sad. And maybe gym had too much chocolate and wine tonight.
I’m sorry you won’t get to see them. As a diabetic, though, the news for obese diabetics is terrifying - I was reading a study specifically on diabetic risk factors, type 1 vs type 2 and whether or not glucose control has an effect. A type 2 with poor glucose control who gets covid-19 has 70 times the risk of death of a non-diabetic. It’s not so bad for well controlled diabetics - only 11 times the risk. That’s not 11% but 11 times. Basically if you are older, obese, and diabetic you won’t live through this. It’s only sane to live in fear at this point, especially when the Memphis area is saying more than half of current transmissions are coming from an unknown source, because it’s so widespread in the community. As for bathrooms, the virus is found in feces and aerosolized by toilet flushing, and most public toilets have no lid.
Pray we get a vaccine soon, and that a vaccine is even possible, because I don’t see how any of us in a vulnerable class are going to get back to normal without one.
I know, I know. It’s that “rationally I know xyz, but I really don’t *want* it to be true” operating. Totally irrational and I recognize that, which is why I totally understand their decision. And am thankful for somewhere to vent a little without anyone either screaming “of course you moron! They should never leave their house again no less see you!” or a Corina conspiracy type using it as a way to rant about the evils of lockdown and masks.
I’m just sad about the whole situation, and about having to tell my kids something they’ve looked forward to for so long won’t happen. When someone asks about going somewhere or doing something and the 4yo immediately says “we can’t...bc the coronavirus!” it’s just...sad.
I am also very sad. I haven't seen the kids in what seems like forever. Well, there's Zoom, but it's not hanging out and having those meaningful conversations at totally random times. Both granddaughters are growing like weeds. There's a marked spike in case rate here so us old folks are kinda back to square one in terms of "hunkering" and realistically, that's going to be more or less the case until there's an effective vaccine, if there ever is one. Being at peace with what is becomes hard as the months pass.5
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