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  • mockchoc
    mockchoc Posts: 6,573 Member
    SModa61 wrote: »
    Just turned on the TV and the NY Macy's Thanksgiving day parade is on. Only saw one float before going to ad and writing this. But, for that float with handlers walking shoulder to shoulder and only a few feet apart, no one had on a mask. How is this permitted? Don't say testing, because in any other situation, testing would not be deemed adaquate. So tired of the do as I say........

    No different to the Christmas tree delivery to you know where. Masks off. Pics are UBER important more than lives apparently. Got to get in the fake smiles.
  • mockchoc
    mockchoc Posts: 6,573 Member
    mockchoc wrote: »
    nutmegoreo wrote: »
    Disagree with me all you want, still does not change the fact that well over 10000 deaths were elders and only about 170 are general population. I have proved my claim.

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    You have argued for arguments sake with anectdotal stories, not facts. Weak.

    In many hospitals it it the protocols making the staff work harder not the actual illness.

    My stats are confirmed by health Canada. Wondering where are you are getting your info from?

    Its not conspiracy theorist, all those are no longer theories. It's now BS analyzer. And you are eating it up.. There is something wrong and if you don't see it... I wish you good luck!

    I'm sorry, I must have missed your link proving that hospitals are empty. Interesting that policies have us working so hard when we have no patients. :frowning:

    I guess all your patients are imaginary---there's a conspiracy....shhh..... We are in it too, here in Italy they're begging doctors that are retired to come back and help out with all the imaginary patients. Very few have answered the call, you see, so many of our medical staff are dead (pictures of them were posted, it took pages of the newspaper). I don't know why retired docs would refuse to go and get paid for doing nothing at a hospital that's empty? Makes you wonder.

    Oh.. massive hugs. This is just so terrible honestly. How the F can't people see it's real??? Guess when they get it or lose family they'll notice. This is no joke.

    That’s exactly what happened with my husband’s boss. His athlete college son and his roommate got it. His mother in law and, his wife’s mother got it. Now he believes. So darn sad. There’ll be a lot of folks joining the believers after Thanksgiving 🥲

    Very sad people that won't listen have to learn the hard way. I just can't even imagine how it'll be after thanksgiving. Please people think twice about what you are doing to spread it. Doesn't take much.
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    The other one was SCOTUS ruling in a 5-4 decision that NY State could not limit the number of people gathering in churches.

    Just to clarify a bit, this blocks the NY executive order temporarily, as the case works its way up to the 2nd Cir and likely the SC again. And the issue is lack of neutrality: "The court explained that Cuomo’s order does not appear to be neutral, but instead “singles out houses of worship for especially harsh treatment.” For example, although a synagogue or a church in a red zone is limited to 10 people at a service, there are no limits on how many people a nearby “essential” business – which can include acupuncture or a camp ground – can admit."

    It also suggests less restrictive rules, like a number based on the size of the church/synagogue building, would be okay.

    That means the issues with the EO from the SC's perspective seem to be fixable, if Cuomo wants to fix it.

    Good analysis, from which I took the quote: https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/11/justices-lift-new-yorks-covid-related-attendance-limits-on-worship-services/#more-297905

    That is good to know. Perhaps he could come up with guidelines for capacity limits based on building size and setup. Or just keep it simple and require masks and 6 ft. of distance for those not in the same household. Then each house of worship would need to figure out how to space seating appropriately to comply.
  • Chef_Barbell
    Chef_Barbell Posts: 6,644 Member
    edited November 2020
    SModa61 wrote: »
    Just turned on the TV and the NY Macy's Thanksgiving day parade is on. Only saw one float before going to ad and writing this. But, for that float with handlers walking shoulder to shoulder and only a few feet apart, no one had on a mask. How is this permitted? Don't say testing, because in any other situation, testing would not be deemed adaquate. So tired of the do as I say........

    From what I understand... there are no handlers this year... all the floats are being driven by one person in a car. No one is there in a crowd at all.

    ETA- https://www.macys.com/social/parade/
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,055 Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    Back to shopping, I've had no issues getting paper products, but 2 stores in a row failed to have butternut squash. These were both delivery, so I wondered if the shopper just didn't find it, but perhaps there is a Thanksgiving-related run on it. I got kabocha as a substitute from the second place, so that's just as good for my purposes anyway.

    I was at my local apple farm last week and they had an unbelievable amount of butternut squash. Mounds and mounds. Wish I'd taken a picture. It grows well here in MA. One year Mom got 80 squashes out of 4 plants. Probably not an option for your garden space though - it needs a LOT of room.
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,887 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    Back to shopping, I've had no issues getting paper products, but 2 stores in a row failed to have butternut squash. These were both delivery, so I wondered if the shopper just didn't find it, but perhaps there is a Thanksgiving-related run on it. I got kabocha as a substitute from the second place, so that's just as good for my purposes anyway.

    I was at my local apple farm last week and they had an unbelievable amount of butternut squash. Mounds and mounds. Wish I'd taken a picture. It grows well here in MA. One year Mom got 80 squashes out of 4 plants. Probably not an option for your garden space though - it needs a LOT of room.

    Yeah, I'd love to plant winter squash, but I have a bitty back yard.
  • SModa61
    SModa61 Posts: 3,465 Member
    SModa61 wrote: »
    Just turned on the TV and the NY Macy's Thanksgiving day parade is on. Only saw one float before going to ad and writing this. But, for that float with handlers walking shoulder to shoulder and only a few feet apart, no one had on a mask. How is this permitted? Don't say testing, because in any other situation, testing would not be deemed adaquate. So tired of the do as I say........

    From what I understand... there are no handlers this year... all the floats are being driven by one person in a car. No one is there in a crowd at all.

    ETA- https://www.macys.com/social/parade/

    @chef_barbell That's good news. I have no idea what was on the TV then. I was annoyed so I turned it off.
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    28 is impressive but hospital customes by default tend to be disease carriers.
  • SModa61
    SModa61 Posts: 3,465 Member
    kimny72 wrote: »
    For what it's worth, Pentatonix just posted pictures on FB from the parade, and they and everyone randomly in the background are wearing masks, so I guess it was just for their parade tv appearances that masks were removed.

    Completely off topic, but if you're feeling kind of empty and unholidayish right now, hop over to the you tubes and find Pentatonix Amazing Grace video. It wakes the ol' human emotions right up :smile:

    @kimny It is sounding like I saw some other odd broadcast. Do they do parade re-runs? Anyhow, apologies if I made a false claim. Would not be my intent. I was so irritated I turned it off.
  • SModa61
    SModa61 Posts: 3,465 Member
    New topic - who is going black friday shopping after quarantining for Thanksgiving? :P

    Obviously, not me. I will be venturing into the very empty grocery store for like five key items.

    I guess this was a topic in this morning's paper. Hubby was chatting with me about it. I guess the article was noting how there are lots of instructions regarding limiting holiday visitations, but comparatively little chat about not swamping the stores tomorrow.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,055 Member
    SModa61 wrote: »
    New topic - who is going black friday shopping after quarantining for Thanksgiving? :P

    Obviously, not me. I will be venturing into the very empty grocery store for like five key items.

    I guess this was a topic in this morning's paper. Hubby was chatting with me about it. I guess the article was noting how there are lots of instructions regarding limiting holiday visitations, but comparatively little chat about not swamping the stores tomorrow.

    No in person Black Friday shopping for me, but then, I probably haven't done that at all this century ;)

    I was at my Walmart Tuesday night for pecans (supermarket was out) and normally they are more prepped for Black Friday - start putting up foot traffic control thingys outside, etc., but there was nothing prestaged. Inside, I heard an announcement that the store would be closed all day Thursday which is unusual - lately they've been starting Black Friday late Thursday.

    My Walmart is only a mile away - I might drive by tomorrow to see what's going on. (An actual drive-by; nothing would get me in the store.)

    When are you flying down to FL? This weekend?
  • SModa61
    SModa61 Posts: 3,465 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    SModa61 wrote: »
    New topic - who is going black friday shopping after quarantining for Thanksgiving? :P

    Obviously, not me. I will be venturing into the very empty grocery store for like five key items.

    I guess this was a topic in this morning's paper. Hubby was chatting with me about it. I guess the article was noting how there are lots of instructions regarding limiting holiday visitations, but comparatively little chat about not swamping the stores tomorrow.

    No in person Black Friday shopping for me, but then, I probably haven't done that at all this century ;)

    I was at my Walmart Tuesday night for pecans (supermarket was out) and normally they are more prepped for Black Friday - start putting up foot traffic control thingys outside, etc., but there was nothing prestaged. Inside, I heard an announcement that the store would be closed all day Thursday which is unusual - lately they've been starting Black Friday late Thursday.

    My Walmart is only a mile away - I might drive by tomorrow to see what's going on. (An actual drive-by; nothing would get me in the store.)

    When are you flying down to FL? This weekend?

    @kshama2001 I have a walmart about a mile way as well. Maybe I'll do the same. Hey, maybe we are neighbors. :P

    Glad your husband had gotten your pecans. I did strategic shopping all last week to limit exposure for family members today. On Monday, I did do an online curbside pickup for a few missing items. But that's it. Could not land a rapid COVID test for Tuesday.

    I am very impressed with your memory. Yes, bad timing, we are traveling to Florida on Saturday to check on the repair of our property. I have masks, gloves, wipes, sanitizing gels, googles, seat covers. Hoping this will not be regretted.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,055 Member
    SModa61 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    SModa61 wrote: »
    New topic - who is going black friday shopping after quarantining for Thanksgiving? :P

    Obviously, not me. I will be venturing into the very empty grocery store for like five key items.

    I guess this was a topic in this morning's paper. Hubby was chatting with me about it. I guess the article was noting how there are lots of instructions regarding limiting holiday visitations, but comparatively little chat about not swamping the stores tomorrow.

    No in person Black Friday shopping for me, but then, I probably haven't done that at all this century ;)

    I was at my Walmart Tuesday night for pecans (supermarket was out) and normally they are more prepped for Black Friday - start putting up foot traffic control thingys outside, etc., but there was nothing prestaged. Inside, I heard an announcement that the store would be closed all day Thursday which is unusual - lately they've been starting Black Friday late Thursday.

    My Walmart is only a mile away - I might drive by tomorrow to see what's going on. (An actual drive-by; nothing would get me in the store.)

    When are you flying down to FL? This weekend?

    @kshama2001 I have a walmart about a mile way as well. Maybe I'll do the same. Hey, maybe we are neighbors. :P

    Glad your husband had gotten your pecans. I did strategic shopping all last week to limit exposure for family members today. On Monday, I did do an online curbside pickup for a few missing items. But that's it. Could not land a rapid COVID test for Tuesday.

    I am very impressed with your memory. Yes, bad timing, we are traveling to Florida on Saturday to check on the repair of our property. I have masks, gloves, wipes, sanitizing gels, googles, seat covers. Hoping this will not be regretted.

    You stick in my memory because we are in the same state (and I used to live in FL,) but IIRC you are on the North Shore and I am South :)

    Keep us posted on your trip. I'm wishing you the best and curious as to how well people adhere to regulations in the airports and airplanes in both states.
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,887 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    SModa61 wrote: »
    New topic - who is going black friday shopping after quarantining for Thanksgiving? :P

    Obviously, not me. I will be venturing into the very empty grocery store for like five key items.

    I guess this was a topic in this morning's paper. Hubby was chatting with me about it. I guess the article was noting how there are lots of instructions regarding limiting holiday visitations, but comparatively little chat about not swamping the stores tomorrow.

    No in person Black Friday shopping for me, but then, I probably haven't done that at all this century ;)

    Heh, I don't believe I ever have. I have an intense hatred for crowded stores.

    Definitely not this year, of course.

    I may buy some stuff online, but because it's assumed no one is really doing anything for Thanksgiving I have work stuff I need to do, so it will be a diversion from that.
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,887 Member
    SModa61 wrote: »
    New topic - who is going black friday shopping after quarantining for Thanksgiving? :P

    Obviously, not me. I will be venturing into the very empty grocery store for like five key items.

    I guess this was a topic in this morning's paper. Hubby was chatting with me about it. I guess the article was noting how there are lots of instructions regarding limiting holiday visitations, but comparatively little chat about not swamping the stores tomorrow.

    Aren't stores limited in how many can go in? Ours are limited to 25% capacity.
  • spiriteagle99
    spiriteagle99 Posts: 3,820 Member
    I have never done Black Friday in my life and don't intend to start this year. DH has some prescriptions waiting at Walmart, but they'll have to wait until Monday or Tuesday, because I am not going near the place this weekend.

    It was interesting running around the neighborhood this afternoon. A lot fewer family gatherings than usual. More people out working on their yards, setting up Christmas decorations etc. Some small family groups out walking and enjoying the beautiful day. We have a lot of older people around us, and my sense was that many were spending the holiday alone. Our next door neighbor said she is so tired, she didn't want to see anybody this year, even family. One neighbor had a good sized party last night They have teenagers and seem to have a big get together every month or so. While walking the dog, we ran into everyone heading home.