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  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
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    jdlobb wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    jdlobb wrote: »
    it's worth noting, that really small variations do result in different dishes.

    Texas Chili and Goulash are really similar, but even if the ONLY difference between two recipes is the use of cayenne in one and paprika in the other, they will result in noticeably different dishes.

    food is awesome

    Nope. Goulash is made from paprika and chili is made from anchos. Yes, botanically both are capsicum annum but hundreds of years of growing either in the soil of Hungary or the soil in Mexico has given them a completely different flavor profile. Technically, the ancho (or poblano if you prefer the fresh version) is the most authentic since chili peppers are a New World fruit.

    what's the nope for? Yeah, I bungled the base spice in texas chili. You're right, it's ancho, i brain farted. But that wasn't the point of the post.

    Despite being closely related, just swapping that single ingredient results in 2 very different dishes. Chili or Goulash.

    Which is what i "noped"
  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
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    earlnabby wrote: »
    CSARdiver wrote: »
    I did not know people felt so passionately about beans in chili (or lack thereof). But whatever your preference at no point can you call it a stew. Or soup. WTF is that about!? And serving it with spaghetti? You over the ponders are a weird lot.

    As a Brit who experiences no regional variations of chili beyond are you fancy and put a bit of dark chocolate in and puts beans in if I have them and considers chili to be about the flavour more than anything (so I'm also cool with vegi varieties) I find this whole conversation entertaining. We probably break all kinds of rules though as it's most often served with rice here. Or loaded nachos.

    I am partial to a chili cheese dog when on your fine shores though.

    You just need to come back to the U.S. and go on a Chili Trail Pilgrimage. Or, better yet, a BBQ Trail Pilgrimage, if you want to see a real smackdown.

    For the record, although I happily eat any and all chili and BBQ, I favor a Virginia vinegar sauce over ribs or pulled pork (brisket is way down the list) and I will kick anyone's butt in a chili cook-off with my white chicken chili. The secret ingredient? Evil.

    I am so on board with a BBQ Trail Pilgrimage.

    One of these years, I am going to drive down Highway 61 from St. Louis to New Orleans, and I am going to eat all of the BBQ and listen to all the Delta Blues.

    We need to get all the Midwesterners together for a road trip.

    Okay, but we all have to meet in St. Louis, not Minnesota. Delta Blues > Dylan.

    Also, one of the stops has to be Lambert's Throwed Rolls Cafe in Sikeston, MO. It's not BBQ, but the local baseball team boys throw rolls at your head and expect you to catch them.

    How about Dubuque? Right on the corner of 3 midwestern states (Iowa, Illinois, and Wisconsin) and we can float down the river.

    I am skeptical of the quality of the Delta Blues in Dubuque, but can be persuaded. ;)

    Actually to be purists we would probably have to start in Chicago, go down Route 66, and then to 61 into the Delta region.

    I agree with this!
  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
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    mmapags wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    jdlobb wrote: »
    Texas Chili competitions, the only ones that matter, will disqualify you for putting beans in a stew and calling it chili.

    I really don't care what the yankees up in Ohio do with their stews.

    IT'S NOT STEW! Ground beef does not a stew make.
    earlnabby wrote: »
    We have a restaurant locally called "Real Chili" and you can get your chili either over noodles (macaroni, not spaghetti), potatoes, or neither. Greasy spoon and a great place to stop after bar time.

    Again, noodles are not pasta, noodles are Asian, pasta is Italian and chili shouldn't be served with either. I'll let the potatoes pass.

    Around here, "noodles" is an all-encompassing term and includes Asian noodles, pasta, egg noodles, Spaetzle, etc.

    And was the cause of much confusion in my adolescent mind when watching US TV shows (mostly Friends TBH) when lasagne is being made but noodles being references. SO confused.

    I grew up in a small town with heavy German/Northern European influence so "noodles" usually meant wide egg noodles. As my horizons expanded, so did the things that were included as noodles. We made lasagna with lasagna noodles that were pasta. We made macaroni and cheese with noodles that were pasta. Many made schnitzel with a side of noodles that were Spaetzel.

    That seems very convoluted. Macaroni/lasagne sheets etc would be types/shapes of pasta. Now you're all throwing extraneous words into the mix.

    It's interesting that moving beyond a European grounding (where pasta is from) caused the calling of pasta to morph into noodles.

    Yup, it is convoluted but we all know what we are talking about. Kind of like the areas where someone asks for a "coke" and needs to specify if it is a Coke, Sprite, Dr. Pepper, etc.

    Might be the large number of Northern Europeans (German, Scandinavian, Polish, etc) who settled all over the area as opposed to southern Europe (Italy) who settled mostly in the one large city we have. As many say "all pasta is noodles, but not all noodles are pasta"

    It's interesting how the same immigrant population cause different language variations. Obviously in the UK we have all kinds of Europeans living here. But that's not an evolution we have. Funny thing to me is how many fish 'n chip shops are owned by Italians though!

    Weighing in as the son of Italian immigrants, it is all pasta by definition. The cut of pasta is the difference. While made the same, noodles are a northern European thing.

    What's the difference between pasta and noodles, besides geography?

    All pasta is noodles, but not all noodles are pasta.
  • VintageFeline
    VintageFeline Posts: 6,771 Member
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    mmapags wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    jdlobb wrote: »
    Texas Chili competitions, the only ones that matter, will disqualify you for putting beans in a stew and calling it chili.

    I really don't care what the yankees up in Ohio do with their stews.

    IT'S NOT STEW! Ground beef does not a stew make.
    earlnabby wrote: »
    We have a restaurant locally called "Real Chili" and you can get your chili either over noodles (macaroni, not spaghetti), potatoes, or neither. Greasy spoon and a great place to stop after bar time.

    Again, noodles are not pasta, noodles are Asian, pasta is Italian and chili shouldn't be served with either. I'll let the potatoes pass.

    Around here, "noodles" is an all-encompassing term and includes Asian noodles, pasta, egg noodles, Spaetzle, etc.

    And was the cause of much confusion in my adolescent mind when watching US TV shows (mostly Friends TBH) when lasagne is being made but noodles being references. SO confused.

    I grew up in a small town with heavy German/Northern European influence so "noodles" usually meant wide egg noodles. As my horizons expanded, so did the things that were included as noodles. We made lasagna with lasagna noodles that were pasta. We made macaroni and cheese with noodles that were pasta. Many made schnitzel with a side of noodles that were Spaetzel.

    That seems very convoluted. Macaroni/lasagne sheets etc would be types/shapes of pasta. Now you're all throwing extraneous words into the mix.

    It's interesting that moving beyond a European grounding (where pasta is from) caused the calling of pasta to morph into noodles.

    Yup, it is convoluted but we all know what we are talking about. Kind of like the areas where someone asks for a "coke" and needs to specify if it is a Coke, Sprite, Dr. Pepper, etc.

    Might be the large number of Northern Europeans (German, Scandinavian, Polish, etc) who settled all over the area as opposed to southern Europe (Italy) who settled mostly in the one large city we have. As many say "all pasta is noodles, but not all noodles are pasta"

    It's interesting how the same immigrant population cause different language variations. Obviously in the UK we have all kinds of Europeans living here. But that's not an evolution we have. Funny thing to me is how many fish 'n chip shops are owned by Italians though!

    Weighing in as the son of Italian immigrants, it is all pasta by definition. The cut of pasta is the difference. While made the same, noodles are a northern European thing.

    What's the difference between pasta and noodles, besides geography?

    Ballache but I posted a link further back with the difference. Pasta and noodle are different things to me.
  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
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    earlnabby wrote: »
    The chili recipe I always used didn't have ground chili in it. We have two different kinds of Paprika though, one is mild and the other spicy, so maybe the spicy Paprika is more or less the saem as your gorund chili.

    Different flavor profile. I have both paprika and a selection of ground chili pepper (ancho, cayenne, Aleppo, and chipotle) (as well as chili powder) and they don't taste the same

    Unfortunately those don't grow here so we have to make do. Fresh chilis and spicy paprika powder, cumin, cilantro, oregano.
    We only get cayenne powder from those. Anything more special I'd have to buy from a specialty shop online, which would be a tad expensive.
  • magster4isu
    magster4isu Posts: 632 Member
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    earlnabby wrote: »
    mmapags wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    jdlobb wrote: »
    Texas Chili competitions, the only ones that matter, will disqualify you for putting beans in a stew and calling it chili.

    I really don't care what the yankees up in Ohio do with their stews.

    IT'S NOT STEW! Ground beef does not a stew make.
    earlnabby wrote: »
    We have a restaurant locally called "Real Chili" and you can get your chili either over noodles (macaroni, not spaghetti), potatoes, or neither. Greasy spoon and a great place to stop after bar time.

    Again, noodles are not pasta, noodles are Asian, pasta is Italian and chili shouldn't be served with either. I'll let the potatoes pass.

    Around here, "noodles" is an all-encompassing term and includes Asian noodles, pasta, egg noodles, Spaetzle, etc.

    And was the cause of much confusion in my adolescent mind when watching US TV shows (mostly Friends TBH) when lasagne is being made but noodles being references. SO confused.

    I grew up in a small town with heavy German/Northern European influence so "noodles" usually meant wide egg noodles. As my horizons expanded, so did the things that were included as noodles. We made lasagna with lasagna noodles that were pasta. We made macaroni and cheese with noodles that were pasta. Many made schnitzel with a side of noodles that were Spaetzel.

    That seems very convoluted. Macaroni/lasagne sheets etc would be types/shapes of pasta. Now you're all throwing extraneous words into the mix.

    It's interesting that moving beyond a European grounding (where pasta is from) caused the calling of pasta to morph into noodles.

    Yup, it is convoluted but we all know what we are talking about. Kind of like the areas where someone asks for a "coke" and needs to specify if it is a Coke, Sprite, Dr. Pepper, etc.

    Might be the large number of Northern Europeans (German, Scandinavian, Polish, etc) who settled all over the area as opposed to southern Europe (Italy) who settled mostly in the one large city we have. As many say "all pasta is noodles, but not all noodles are pasta"

    It's interesting how the same immigrant population cause different language variations. Obviously in the UK we have all kinds of Europeans living here. But that's not an evolution we have. Funny thing to me is how many fish 'n chip shops are owned by Italians though!

    Weighing in as the son of Italian immigrants, it is all pasta by definition. The cut of pasta is the difference. While made the same, noodles are a northern European thing.

    What's the difference between pasta and noodles, besides geography?

    All pasta is noodles, but not all noodles are pasta.

    Still doesn't answer my question.
  • French_Peasant
    French_Peasant Posts: 1,639 Member
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    CSARdiver wrote: »
    CSARdiver wrote: »
    I did not know people felt so passionately about beans in chili (or lack thereof). But whatever your preference at no point can you call it a stew. Or soup. WTF is that about!? And serving it with spaghetti? You over the ponders are a weird lot.

    As a Brit who experiences no regional variations of chili beyond are you fancy and put a bit of dark chocolate in and puts beans in if I have them and considers chili to be about the flavour more than anything (so I'm also cool with vegi varieties) I find this whole conversation entertaining. We probably break all kinds of rules though as it's most often served with rice here. Or loaded nachos.

    I am partial to a chili cheese dog when on your fine shores though.

    You just need to come back to the U.S. and go on a Chili Trail Pilgrimage. Or, better yet, a BBQ Trail Pilgrimage, if you want to see a real smackdown.

    For the record, although I happily eat any and all chili and BBQ, I favor a Virginia vinegar sauce over ribs or pulled pork (brisket is way down the list) and I will kick anyone's butt in a chili cook-off with my white chicken chili. The secret ingredient? Evil.

    I am so on board with a BBQ Trail Pilgrimage.

    One of these years, I am going to drive down Highway 61 from St. Louis to New Orleans, and I am going to eat all of the BBQ and listen to all the Delta Blues.

    We need to get all the Midwesterners together for a road trip.

    Okay, but we all have to meet in St. Louis, not Minnesota. Delta Blues > Dylan.

    Also, one of the stops has to be Lambert's Throwed Rolls Cafe in Sikeston, MO. It's not BBQ, but the local baseball team boys throw rolls at your head and expect you to catch them.

    Very familiar - Originally from St. Louis and most of our family is in the greater St. Louis metro area still.

    There are some amazing local pit masters cooking in the empty lots around U City & Dog Town. They cook Kansas City style which is just fantastic with the sorghum molasses base sauce you get around Southern IL & MO.

    When I was in 4th grade, my grandparents moved to the Ozarks, and we would always cross the river near Cairo and then stop at Boomland (a mecca for roadside Americana back then) and Lamberts. I always felt like I was getting somewhere once we hit that red dirt.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
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    earlnabby wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    jdlobb wrote: »
    Texas Chili competitions, the only ones that matter, will disqualify you for putting beans in a stew and calling it chili.

    I really don't care what the yankees up in Ohio do with their stews.

    IT'S NOT STEW! Ground beef does not a stew make.
    earlnabby wrote: »
    We have a restaurant locally called "Real Chili" and you can get your chili either over noodles (macaroni, not spaghetti), potatoes, or neither. Greasy spoon and a great place to stop after bar time.

    Again, noodles are not pasta, noodles are Asian, pasta is Italian and chili shouldn't be served with either. I'll let the potatoes pass.

    Around here, "noodles" is an all-encompassing term and includes Asian noodles, pasta, egg noodles, Spaetzle, etc.

    And was the cause of much confusion in my adolescent mind when watching US TV shows (mostly Friends TBH) when lasagne is being made but noodles being references. SO confused.

    I grew up in a small town with heavy German/Northern European influence so "noodles" usually meant wide egg noodles. As my horizons expanded, so did the things that were included as noodles. We made lasagna with lasagna noodles that were pasta. We made macaroni and cheese with noodles that were pasta. Many made schnitzel with a side of noodles that were Spaetzel.

    That seems very convoluted. Macaroni/lasagne sheets etc would be types/shapes of pasta. Now you're all throwing extraneous words into the mix.

    It's interesting that moving beyond a European grounding (where pasta is from) caused the calling of pasta to morph into noodles.

    I actually think it's that a lot of Americans ran into noodles from a central European background first, and knew only a limited selection of pasta (which some apparently called macaroni in all forms, although we did not).

    When I was growing up, you had noodles, which were egg noodles, or spaghetti, or lasagne noodles. Pasta as a general term was not used. I don't recall noodles with Chinese food from when I was young, but later had it with Japanese food (nice restaurant in town was Japanese) and then was exposed to it (late high school) in Chinese and Thai.

    I now think of pasta as Italian and noodles as everything else, although I'd tend to agree that noodles is the generic.

    That said, chili shouldn't be put on spaghetti, that's a weird Cincinnati thing. (Joking, mostly.)
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
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    mmapags wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    jdlobb wrote: »
    Texas Chili competitions, the only ones that matter, will disqualify you for putting beans in a stew and calling it chili.

    I really don't care what the yankees up in Ohio do with their stews.

    IT'S NOT STEW! Ground beef does not a stew make.
    earlnabby wrote: »
    We have a restaurant locally called "Real Chili" and you can get your chili either over noodles (macaroni, not spaghetti), potatoes, or neither. Greasy spoon and a great place to stop after bar time.

    Again, noodles are not pasta, noodles are Asian, pasta is Italian and chili shouldn't be served with either. I'll let the potatoes pass.

    Around here, "noodles" is an all-encompassing term and includes Asian noodles, pasta, egg noodles, Spaetzle, etc.

    And was the cause of much confusion in my adolescent mind when watching US TV shows (mostly Friends TBH) when lasagne is being made but noodles being references. SO confused.

    I grew up in a small town with heavy German/Northern European influence so "noodles" usually meant wide egg noodles. As my horizons expanded, so did the things that were included as noodles. We made lasagna with lasagna noodles that were pasta. We made macaroni and cheese with noodles that were pasta. Many made schnitzel with a side of noodles that were Spaetzel.

    That seems very convoluted. Macaroni/lasagne sheets etc would be types/shapes of pasta. Now you're all throwing extraneous words into the mix.

    It's interesting that moving beyond a European grounding (where pasta is from) caused the calling of pasta to morph into noodles.

    Yup, it is convoluted but we all know what we are talking about. Kind of like the areas where someone asks for a "coke" and needs to specify if it is a Coke, Sprite, Dr. Pepper, etc.

    Might be the large number of Northern Europeans (German, Scandinavian, Polish, etc) who settled all over the area as opposed to southern Europe (Italy) who settled mostly in the one large city we have. As many say "all pasta is noodles, but not all noodles are pasta"

    It's interesting how the same immigrant population cause different language variations. Obviously in the UK we have all kinds of Europeans living here. But that's not an evolution we have. Funny thing to me is how many fish 'n chip shops are owned by Italians though!

    Weighing in as the son of Italian immigrants, it is all pasta by definition. The cut of pasta is the difference. While made the same, noodles are a northern European thing.

    What's the difference between pasta and noodles, besides geography?

    Not much. There can be slight variations but and German Egg Noodle and Tagliatelle Fresca are essentially made the same way with the same ingredients.
  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
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    earlnabby wrote: »
    The chili recipe I always used didn't have ground chili in it. We have two different kinds of Paprika though, one is mild and the other spicy, so maybe the spicy Paprika is more or less the saem as your gorund chili.

    Different flavor profile. I have both paprika and a selection of ground chili pepper (ancho, cayenne, Aleppo, and chipotle) (as well as chili powder) and they don't taste the same

    Unfortunately those don't grow here so we have to make do. Fresh chilis and spicy paprika powder, cumin, cilantro, oregano.

    For some reason I always thought you were in the US. My apologies.

    In the end, they are all chili peppers. What would the world's different cuisines be like if the chili pepper had not been "discovered" in the New World? For that matter, any of the nightshades (potato, tomato, eggplant, etc)
  • jdlobb
    jdlobb Posts: 1,232 Member
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    I would have to draw a venn diagram of pasta and noodles.

    I wouldn't consider all noodles to be pasta, and I would consider all pasta to be noodles.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,268 Member
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    earlnabby wrote: »
    mmapags wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    jdlobb wrote: »
    Texas Chili competitions, the only ones that matter, will disqualify you for putting beans in a stew and calling it chili.

    I really don't care what the yankees up in Ohio do with their stews.

    IT'S NOT STEW! Ground beef does not a stew make.
    earlnabby wrote: »
    We have a restaurant locally called "Real Chili" and you can get your chili either over noodles (macaroni, not spaghetti), potatoes, or neither. Greasy spoon and a great place to stop after bar time.

    Again, noodles are not pasta, noodles are Asian, pasta is Italian and chili shouldn't be served with either. I'll let the potatoes pass.

    Around here, "noodles" is an all-encompassing term and includes Asian noodles, pasta, egg noodles, Spaetzle, etc.

    And was the cause of much confusion in my adolescent mind when watching US TV shows (mostly Friends TBH) when lasagne is being made but noodles being references. SO confused.

    I grew up in a small town with heavy German/Northern European influence so "noodles" usually meant wide egg noodles. As my horizons expanded, so did the things that were included as noodles. We made lasagna with lasagna noodles that were pasta. We made macaroni and cheese with noodles that were pasta. Many made schnitzel with a side of noodles that were Spaetzel.

    That seems very convoluted. Macaroni/lasagne sheets etc would be types/shapes of pasta. Now you're all throwing extraneous words into the mix.

    It's interesting that moving beyond a European grounding (where pasta is from) caused the calling of pasta to morph into noodles.

    Yup, it is convoluted but we all know what we are talking about. Kind of like the areas where someone asks for a "coke" and needs to specify if it is a Coke, Sprite, Dr. Pepper, etc.

    Might be the large number of Northern Europeans (German, Scandinavian, Polish, etc) who settled all over the area as opposed to southern Europe (Italy) who settled mostly in the one large city we have. As many say "all pasta is noodles, but not all noodles are pasta"

    It's interesting how the same immigrant population cause different language variations. Obviously in the UK we have all kinds of Europeans living here. But that's not an evolution we have. Funny thing to me is how many fish 'n chip shops are owned by Italians though!

    Weighing in as the son of Italian immigrants, it is all pasta by definition. The cut of pasta is the difference. While made the same, noodles are a northern European thing.

    What's the difference between pasta and noodles, besides geography?

    All pasta is noodles, but not all noodles are pasta.

    Still doesn't answer my question.

    for me pasta is made from specific ingrediants...usually contains wheat...

    Noodles can be rice noodles...but not rice pasta....*scratches head*
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
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    mmapags wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    jdlobb wrote: »
    Texas Chili competitions, the only ones that matter, will disqualify you for putting beans in a stew and calling it chili.

    I really don't care what the yankees up in Ohio do with their stews.

    IT'S NOT STEW! Ground beef does not a stew make.
    earlnabby wrote: »
    We have a restaurant locally called "Real Chili" and you can get your chili either over noodles (macaroni, not spaghetti), potatoes, or neither. Greasy spoon and a great place to stop after bar time.

    Again, noodles are not pasta, noodles are Asian, pasta is Italian and chili shouldn't be served with either. I'll let the potatoes pass.

    Around here, "noodles" is an all-encompassing term and includes Asian noodles, pasta, egg noodles, Spaetzle, etc.

    And was the cause of much confusion in my adolescent mind when watching US TV shows (mostly Friends TBH) when lasagne is being made but noodles being references. SO confused.

    I grew up in a small town with heavy German/Northern European influence so "noodles" usually meant wide egg noodles. As my horizons expanded, so did the things that were included as noodles. We made lasagna with lasagna noodles that were pasta. We made macaroni and cheese with noodles that were pasta. Many made schnitzel with a side of noodles that were Spaetzel.

    That seems very convoluted. Macaroni/lasagne sheets etc would be types/shapes of pasta. Now you're all throwing extraneous words into the mix.

    It's interesting that moving beyond a European grounding (where pasta is from) caused the calling of pasta to morph into noodles.

    Yup, it is convoluted but we all know what we are talking about. Kind of like the areas where someone asks for a "coke" and needs to specify if it is a Coke, Sprite, Dr. Pepper, etc.

    Might be the large number of Northern Europeans (German, Scandinavian, Polish, etc) who settled all over the area as opposed to southern Europe (Italy) who settled mostly in the one large city we have. As many say "all pasta is noodles, but not all noodles are pasta"

    It's interesting how the same immigrant population cause different language variations. Obviously in the UK we have all kinds of Europeans living here. But that's not an evolution we have. Funny thing to me is how many fish 'n chip shops are owned by Italians though!

    Weighing in as the son of Italian immigrants, it is all pasta by definition. The cut of pasta is the difference. While made the same, noodles are a northern European thing.

    Yes we call all pasta of all shapes pasta.

    Noodles though I call Asian not northern European?

    I can see that too. I think of noodles more as German Egg Noodles or Spaetzle.
  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
    edited September 2017
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    earlnabby wrote: »
    mmapags wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    jdlobb wrote: »
    Texas Chili competitions, the only ones that matter, will disqualify you for putting beans in a stew and calling it chili.

    I really don't care what the yankees up in Ohio do with their stews.

    IT'S NOT STEW! Ground beef does not a stew make.
    earlnabby wrote: »
    We have a restaurant locally called "Real Chili" and you can get your chili either over noodles (macaroni, not spaghetti), potatoes, or neither. Greasy spoon and a great place to stop after bar time.

    Again, noodles are not pasta, noodles are Asian, pasta is Italian and chili shouldn't be served with either. I'll let the potatoes pass.

    Around here, "noodles" is an all-encompassing term and includes Asian noodles, pasta, egg noodles, Spaetzle, etc.

    And was the cause of much confusion in my adolescent mind when watching US TV shows (mostly Friends TBH) when lasagne is being made but noodles being references. SO confused.

    I grew up in a small town with heavy German/Northern European influence so "noodles" usually meant wide egg noodles. As my horizons expanded, so did the things that were included as noodles. We made lasagna with lasagna noodles that were pasta. We made macaroni and cheese with noodles that were pasta. Many made schnitzel with a side of noodles that were Spaetzel.

    That seems very convoluted. Macaroni/lasagne sheets etc would be types/shapes of pasta. Now you're all throwing extraneous words into the mix.

    It's interesting that moving beyond a European grounding (where pasta is from) caused the calling of pasta to morph into noodles.

    Yup, it is convoluted but we all know what we are talking about. Kind of like the areas where someone asks for a "coke" and needs to specify if it is a Coke, Sprite, Dr. Pepper, etc.

    Might be the large number of Northern Europeans (German, Scandinavian, Polish, etc) who settled all over the area as opposed to southern Europe (Italy) who settled mostly in the one large city we have. As many say "all pasta is noodles, but not all noodles are pasta"

    It's interesting how the same immigrant population cause different language variations. Obviously in the UK we have all kinds of Europeans living here. But that's not an evolution we have. Funny thing to me is how many fish 'n chip shops are owned by Italians though!

    Weighing in as the son of Italian immigrants, it is all pasta by definition. The cut of pasta is the difference. While made the same, noodles are a northern European thing.

    What's the difference between pasta and noodles, besides geography?

    All pasta is noodles, but not all noodles are pasta.

    Still doesn't answer my question.

    Best I can do. You know it when you see it.

    More seriously, around here, noodles are usually flat and rectangular, and can vary from about an inch long to a few inches (but can be different widths although wide is the most common) where pasta is shaped into specific forms depending on the use.
  • jdlobb
    jdlobb Posts: 1,232 Member
    edited September 2017
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    my unpopular opinion about health is that the old fashion way works, but no one wants to do it! That is eat whole foods, mostly plants, dark greens, and other veggies, no food that comes in a box, very little starch, with lean protein, plus exercise of some type.

    so paleo + whole grains? I'm not sure that's such an unpopular opinion.

    don't most people just call that "clean eating?"
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,576 Member
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    my unpopular opinion about health is that the old fashion way works, but no one wants to do it! That is eat whole foods, mostly plants, dark greens, and other veggies, no food that comes in a box, very little starch, with lean protein, plus exercise of some type.

    I'm not arguing whether this is good or bad, but where is this the "old fashioned way"? I'm in my mid-50's and even my grandparents didn't eat that way.
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    Texas Chili competitions, the only ones that matter, will disqualify you for putting beans in a stew and calling it chili.

    I really don't care what the yankees up in Ohio do with their stews.

    IT'S NOT STEW! Ground beef does not a stew make.
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    We have a restaurant locally called "Real Chili" and you can get your chili either over noodles (macaroni, not spaghetti), potatoes, or neither. Greasy spoon and a great place to stop after bar time.

    Again, noodles are not pasta, noodles are Asian, pasta is Italian and chili shouldn't be served with either. I'll let the potatoes pass.

    I'm not a chili expert, but isn't chili just bolognese with different spices?

    More heat, no milk, plus beans and peppers.

    Bolognese has milk? :hushed:
    You learn new things every day.
    I'm no expert with meat things.

    Milk or (usually) cream to enhance the richness.

    But you could add some to chili for the same reason. It would also mellow the heat a little bit.

    No you are just talking crazy!

    Chemically it's pretty much the same thing as putting cheese in the chili. Taste-wise it's something else. Personally I prefer to add a tablespoon or two of cocoa powder, skip the cheese, and crumble in cornbread.

    I don't dislike cheese on chili but I don't put it in there. And always as a garnish only, sprinkled on top of a bowl of chili. Never in the pot.

    Chili also varies from bolognese in that it doesn't have to include ground beef and may include other types of meat besides beef.

    I've made bolognese with ground lamb, ground turkey, ground chicken, and sky bison, although the birds taste a bit different.

    I've made chili with lamb, bison, pork, elk, and turkey. The turkey chili always seems like its missing a little something; I think the other meats just add some gaminess (and definitely some fat) that turkey can't.

    But is it truly bolognese without beef? I mean people make pizza without dough but technically it's not pizza.

    I think the only thing really required in chili is, well, chilis.

    Chilis and cumin. Chili powder is nothing more than ground ancho chili, cumin, Mexican oregano, and garlic. Other ingredients can be included, but this is the basic.

    Interesting. So when we dry chilis from our garden and grind them, that's not chili powder because we didn't add cumin?

    Yup, that is ground chili pepper, not chili powder.

    It's powdered chilis but not chili powder. I'm still calling it chili powder. Google says I can.

    You missed the edit. Google is NOT the best source for this information. The food industry, especially the spice merchants, make a distinction.

    If I grind my dried chilis into a powder I'm still calling it chili powder.

    I think the confusion is in the very similar spelling of two different things...if you are growing chiles, you grind them into a chile powder. But a chili powder is specifically for chili (or related dish), of course one key ingredient of chili powder is chile powder.

    I think you are wrong here. Look "chili" up in the dictionary. It's a hot pepper. Chile is just another spelling for chili.

    You're right, they are completely interchangeable, with chili first. So why does something like "ancho chili pepper" look so weird to me, as opposed to "ancho chile pepper." Weird. Anyway, I asked Dr. Google, and he said that it's another great topic for debate, ha ha! : http://articles.latimes.com/2000/nov/19/local/me-54396

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    NickleArse wrote: »
    a bulletproof coffee for breakfast (as part of a keto or LCHF diet) is an excellent way to lose weight

    whats the point of adding butter to the coffee? seems like unnecessary calories to me. coffee is just fine as-is.
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