Confession Time! ((ABSOLUTELY NO JUDGEMENT))
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Agreed. You're amazingly strong and I truly admire you for that.girldownsouth wrote: »For all the people sharing stories. I am very sorry, I don't really know what to say. It all sounds awful and I'm glad you were able to come out of it stronger.
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I have a twin!!xLoveLikeWinterx wrote: »I ended up eating a bit more than usual last night (just about 150 cals-ish higher, so NBD) and had a 2 lb woosh this morning... what the whah?? IDK but I'll take it.
So now @tubbs I think we're almost identical in stats... I have 8 lb to go to goal, about 5 after that. I desperately need new work clothes because they're hanging in weird places and un-tailored work clothes bother me lol... I may hit up cheap clothes to get me through the next few months until my spree at goal lol...
And I may have found a dog from the local rescue group near me... He's 5 yrs old, housetrained/shots/neutered, Beagle and he seems adorable.
Regarding the dog, make sure you (and your neighbours) can handle the howling before you take him. My best friend has a beagle and she's lovely but the howling when she's excited...
Huh. I didn't know that. We had a beagle for a few years growing up, and I never noticed howling. Of course, our dogs always lived outside in the barns (raised on a farm). I've had a ton of different dog breeds over the years.
I think this dog sounds like a great possibility! I would never get another puppy, a dog that's already housetrained is the only kind to get. Of course, I adopted an 11 year old this time around, so she's starting to have a problem holding it all day already...0 -
That is hard for a kid. Did a police report get filed? Can he/you look on craigslist or equivalent for a cheaper short-term bike?Italian_Buju wrote: »
Thanksrungirl1973 wrote: »@Italian_Buju yikes. Sorry your son's bike keeps walking away. That blows.
I keep saying tomorrow has to be a better day, right?? LOL
At this point I am not feeling so hopeful!
I really wanna eat a pint of Haagan Dazs grief bacon right now!!!
He might find HIS bike on Craigslist.....
That's what I was thinking...
@xLoveLikeWinterx, let us know about the dog!!! Excited for you!
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We had Blue's Clues too, but we had Kevin as a presenter. Did you know they had different presenters for different countries? Kevin was from Liverpool, so we'd always be like "Eh, alright, alright, calm down our Blue"When my daughter was a toddler, Blues Clues was her favorite. The same show 5 days in a row. All summer long. (I was a teacher then and had summers off.)
They did this for Thomas the Tank Engine too - Ringo Starr was the original British voiceover.
My daughter was a first generation Teletubby fan, and I suppose they re-voiced that too, since it was sold all over the world.
I did not know they had different presenters! We caught a little bit of Blues Clues and Teletubbies, but my kids were already almost too old for those. We had Sesame Street (of course) and Barney. I love you, you love me... AARGH!!0 -
pofoster21 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »Ok, I give up!
Seriously, I GIVE UP!
I had an important appointment today that I thought was at 3pm, turns out it was at 2pm. I am not even sure how that happened because that is very unlike me.
Then, just now, my son texts me, to tell me that HIS NEW BIKE THAT HE JUST BOUGHT LAST FRIDAY JUST GOT STOLEN FROM HIS PLACE OF WORK. Are you kidding me?? Not only is that two bikes in seven days, but he just spent nearly $300 FIVE DAYS AGO, and it is gone! He is a 17 year old kid, that is a lot of money to him.....sadly, it is a lot of money to me too, so I am not even sure how much I can help him out.
And he needs a bike to get to work, it is not like he is riding it for fun. He literally uses it for transportation to and from work! Now, he is gonna have to walk the 35 minute walk again for who knows how long until he gets another bike.
I feel terrible for him, I am truly gutted.
Do you have homeowners insurance? They might cover it. When I bought my tri bike I called to insure it. They told me it was covered under homeowners.
Technically it is, but with the deductible he would not get much of anything.
Yes but if it happens a 3rd time it would be 100% covered this year right?
My homeowners deductible is per claim.0 -
pofoster21 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »Ok, I give up!
Seriously, I GIVE UP!
I had an important appointment today that I thought was at 3pm, turns out it was at 2pm. I am not even sure how that happened because that is very unlike me.
Then, just now, my son texts me, to tell me that HIS NEW BIKE THAT HE JUST BOUGHT LAST FRIDAY JUST GOT STOLEN FROM HIS PLACE OF WORK. Are you kidding me?? Not only is that two bikes in seven days, but he just spent nearly $300 FIVE DAYS AGO, and it is gone! He is a 17 year old kid, that is a lot of money to him.....sadly, it is a lot of money to me too, so I am not even sure how much I can help him out.
And he needs a bike to get to work, it is not like he is riding it for fun. He literally uses it for transportation to and from work! Now, he is gonna have to walk the 35 minute walk again for who knows how long until he gets another bike.
I feel terrible for him, I am truly gutted.
Do you have homeowners insurance? They might cover it. When I bought my tri bike I called to insure it. They told me it was covered under homeowners.
Technically it is, but with the deductible he would not get much of anything.
Yes but if it happens a 3rd time it would be 100% covered this year right?
My homeowners deductible is per claim.
Really? I think mine is annual but I guess I could be wrong there!0 -
Barney was the ONE kids' show I really couldn't handle. Barney himself was pretty annoying, but the precocious, over-acting child presenters...rungirl1973 wrote: »
We had Blue's Clues too, but we had Kevin as a presenter. Did you know they had different presenters for different countries? Kevin was from Liverpool, so we'd always be like "Eh, alright, alright, calm down our Blue"When my daughter was a toddler, Blues Clues was her favorite. The same show 5 days in a row. All summer long. (I was a teacher then and had summers off.)
They did this for Thomas the Tank Engine too - Ringo Starr was the original British voiceover.
My daughter was a first generation Teletubby fan, and I suppose they re-voiced that too, since it was sold all over the world.
I did not know they had different presenters! We caught a little bit of Blues Clues and Teletubbies, but my kids were already almost too old for those. We had Sesame Street (of course) and Barney. I love you, you love me... AARGH!!
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I just wanted to throw my hugs and heartfelt sympathies to those of you who have survived any type of sexual assault. You are all amazing and strong people.
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rungirl1973 wrote: »
I have a twin!!xLoveLikeWinterx wrote: »I ended up eating a bit more than usual last night (just about 150 cals-ish higher, so NBD) and had a 2 lb woosh this morning... what the whah?? IDK but I'll take it.
So now @tubbs I think we're almost identical in stats... I have 8 lb to go to goal, about 5 after that. I desperately need new work clothes because they're hanging in weird places and un-tailored work clothes bother me lol... I may hit up cheap clothes to get me through the next few months until my spree at goal lol...
And I may have found a dog from the local rescue group near me... He's 5 yrs old, housetrained/shots/neutered, Beagle and he seems adorable.
Regarding the dog, make sure you (and your neighbours) can handle the howling before you take him. My best friend has a beagle and she's lovely but the howling when she's excited...
Huh. I didn't know that. We had a beagle for a few years growing up, and I never noticed howling. Of course, our dogs always lived outside in the barns (raised on a farm). I've had a ton of different dog breeds over the years.
I think this dog sounds like a great possibility! I would never get another puppy, a dog that's already housetrained is the only kind to get. Of course, I adopted an 11 year old this time around, so she's starting to have a problem holding it all day already...
Yay you for adopting a sr. dog!0 -
Barney was the ONE kids' show I really couldn't handle. Barney himself was pretty annoying, but the precocious, over-acting child presenters...rungirl1973 wrote: »
We had Blue's Clues too, but we had Kevin as a presenter. Did you know they had different presenters for different countries? Kevin was from Liverpool, so we'd always be like "Eh, alright, alright, calm down our Blue"When my daughter was a toddler, Blues Clues was her favorite. The same show 5 days in a row. All summer long. (I was a teacher then and had summers off.)
They did this for Thomas the Tank Engine too - Ringo Starr was the original British voiceover.
My daughter was a first generation Teletubby fan, and I suppose they re-voiced that too, since it was sold all over the world.
I did not know they had different presenters! We caught a little bit of Blues Clues and Teletubbies, but my kids were already almost too old for those. We had Sesame Street (of course) and Barney. I love you, you love me... AARGH!!
Barney shpuld go the way of all other dinosaur..as in becoming extinct0 -
Have fun!TigerNY128 wrote: »I'm on the way to Florida for vacation!! Check in with yall when I get back on Monday.
@kelly_c_77 The rain down here has been pretty bad for a while too. Fortunately, it doesn't flood too bad in my area, even during that week the news was reporting about. It sucks that you can't walk with your son.
@Italian_Buju I remember someone in another thread saying Fitbit didn't sell XL in their country. That's such a silly thing for a company to do.
I confess that I am young enough to have enjoyed Blues Clues as a kid.
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pofoster21 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »I have a Garmin, I think I may be the special snowflake on here haha
No I have a MisFit because it works with swimming. I did have a fitbit but I couldn't get into the habit of charging it so it would die and then I wouldn't wear it for a week.
Just a thought, if someone in England would like my fitbit one I'll be happy to send it free of charge. I would rather it be used than sit in my drawer forever.raelynnsmama52512 wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »girldownsouth wrote: »orangesmartie wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »orangesmartie wrote: »
Ooh that sounds good, what happens during that one?pofoster21 wrote: »rungirl1973 wrote: »
That will be great Ceci!!
Well, dang. I'm not in South Carolina or Texas.
Anybody near Nashville, TN?
No but I really want to do the country music marathon. Interested?
Country music at every mile marker. Seriously want to do it? I am in! I signed up years ago then didn't go as I didn't want to travel by myself. I have since got over that and travel by myself to races all the time. I was just thinking the other day about signing up again. I haven't raced in TN!
Yeah I'd love to! And have a little holiday at the same time
Might be up @girldownsouth 's alley also
Yep, country music might make the running part better! In fact, what would definitely get me round a marathon would be if you could get Dierks Bentley to run just in front of me! That'd be great...
Okay, guys, 4/30/16 is our date! I'll have to think about which country artist I would want to run behind. I love Eric Church, but he's taken. As is Toby Keith. Not sure about Chris Young. I love Gary Allen's voice but he isn't the most handsome man in the world... Hmmm. I'll have to think on it a bit. Start training!
Can an SC girl get in on this too?? I'd gladly run across the country if Brantley Gilbert or Jake Owen were in front of me! Country has some of the hottest singers...yummmm
Of course these singers are not going to be top country talent but maybe we can catch a concert and go to the grand Ole Oprey!
I've always wanted to go there!
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rungirl1973 wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »I have a Garmin, I think I may be the special snowflake on here haha
No I have a MisFit because it works with swimming. I did have a fitbit but I couldn't get into the habit of charging it so it would die and then I wouldn't wear it for a week.
Just a thought, if someone in England would like my fitbit one I'll be happy to send it free of charge. I would rather it be used than sit in my drawer forever.raelynnsmama52512 wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »girldownsouth wrote: »orangesmartie wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »orangesmartie wrote: »
Ooh that sounds good, what happens during that one?pofoster21 wrote: »rungirl1973 wrote: »
That will be great Ceci!!
Well, dang. I'm not in South Carolina or Texas.
Anybody near Nashville, TN?
No but I really want to do the country music marathon. Interested?
Country music at every mile marker. Seriously want to do it? I am in! I signed up years ago then didn't go as I didn't want to travel by myself. I have since got over that and travel by myself to races all the time. I was just thinking the other day about signing up again. I haven't raced in TN!
Yeah I'd love to! And have a little holiday at the same time
Might be up @girldownsouth 's alley also
Yep, country music might make the running part better! In fact, what would definitely get me round a marathon would be if you could get Dierks Bentley to run just in front of me! That'd be great...
Okay, guys, 4/30/16 is our date! I'll have to think about which country artist I would want to run behind. I love Eric Church, but he's taken. As is Toby Keith. Not sure about Chris Young. I love Gary Allen's voice but he isn't the most handsome man in the world... Hmmm. I'll have to think on it a bit. Start training!
Can an SC girl get in on this too?? I'd gladly run across the country if Brantley Gilbert or Jake Owen were in front of me! Country has some of the hottest singers...yummmm
Of course these singers are not going to be top country talent but maybe we can catch a concert and go to the grand Ole Oprey!
There's also a headliner the night of the race, free concert for race participants. This year, it was Martina McBride.
Oooh I love Martina McBride
So, Rungirl, organgesmartie, girldownsouth, and reaelynnsmama
And me! We've got a party!0 -
rungirl1973 wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »rungirl1973 wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »rungirl1973 wrote: »((Hugs)) @Tubbs216
I haven't been running either, I think that's why I'm in such a funk. Tomorrow is July 1 and I'm in a weight loss challenge with some friends on Facebook. Tomorrow is the day I get back at it, with a clean colon I suppose...
Well I hear you lose a lot of weight with that....
LOL! My 1-day detox plan!
Our official first weigh-in for the challenge is supposed to be on 7/2, but I will be using my WI from BEFORE the colon cleanse.
Ohh if the start is 7/2 then you need to eat all the salty foods. Maximum short term weight gain!
No I am not competitive. POF you crack me up, but that sounds like something I would do.
Oh yeah! I took my official starting weigh-in this morning. Up 4 lbs from earlier this week. Success!
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When my daughter was a toddler, Blues Clues was her favorite. The same show 5 days in a row. All summer long. (I was a teacher then and had summers off.)
Confession: I will be 24 years old October 4th, and I still watch and love Blue's Clues! Only Steve, I don't want any of that Joe bs! :laugh:0 -
Happy Canada Day!
I'm meant to be going camping with friends today, but the weather is a bit unsettled. We had a HUGE thunderstorm in the night. They have a nice new tent trailer which they will squeeze my son and I into if needed, but I'd rather not do that. I bought a new pop-up tent specially for the occasion but now I'm thinking maybe we'll go and have a nice day and evening with them, and then drive home.
Despite having been an awesome Girl Guide leader when my daughter was younger, I hate tent camping with a passion!0 -
Good tastesraelynnsmama52512 wrote: »
Confession: I will be 24 years old October 4th, and I still watch and love Blue's Clues! Only Steve, I don't want any of that Joe bs! :laugh:When my daughter was a toddler, Blues Clues was her favorite. The same show 5 days in a row. All summer long. (I was a teacher then and had summers off.)
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pofoster21 wrote: »rungirl1973 wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »I have a Garmin, I think I may be the special snowflake on here haha
No I have a MisFit because it works with swimming. I did have a fitbit but I couldn't get into the habit of charging it so it would die and then I wouldn't wear it for a week.
Just a thought, if someone in England would like my fitbit one I'll be happy to send it free of charge. I would rather it be used than sit in my drawer forever.raelynnsmama52512 wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »girldownsouth wrote: »orangesmartie wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »orangesmartie wrote: »
Ooh that sounds good, what happens during that one?pofoster21 wrote: »rungirl1973 wrote: »
That will be great Ceci!!
Well, dang. I'm not in South Carolina or Texas.
Anybody near Nashville, TN?
No but I really want to do the country music marathon. Interested?
Country music at every mile marker. Seriously want to do it? I am in! I signed up years ago then didn't go as I didn't want to travel by myself. I have since got over that and travel by myself to races all the time. I was just thinking the other day about signing up again. I haven't raced in TN!
Yeah I'd love to! And have a little holiday at the same time
Might be up @girldownsouth 's alley also
Yep, country music might make the running part better! In fact, what would definitely get me round a marathon would be if you could get Dierks Bentley to run just in front of me! That'd be great...
Okay, guys, 4/30/16 is our date! I'll have to think about which country artist I would want to run behind. I love Eric Church, but he's taken. As is Toby Keith. Not sure about Chris Young. I love Gary Allen's voice but he isn't the most handsome man in the world... Hmmm. I'll have to think on it a bit. Start training!
Can an SC girl get in on this too?? I'd gladly run across the country if Brantley Gilbert or Jake Owen were in front of me! Country has some of the hottest singers...yummmm
Of course these singers are not going to be top country talent but maybe we can catch a concert and go to the grand Ole Oprey!
There's also a headliner the night of the race, free concert for race participants. This year, it was Martina McBride.
Oooh I love Martina McBride
So, Rungirl, organgesmartie, girldownsouth, and reaelynnsmama
And me! We've got a party!
Can someone pm me the details? I've never heard of the country music marathon! I'm so in though lol!
Yikes, that means I need to start running!0 -
riderfangal wrote: »I just wanted to throw my hugs and heartfelt sympathies to those of you who have survived any type of sexual assault. You are all amazing and strong people.
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spacequiztime wrote: »
Good tastesraelynnsmama52512 wrote: »
Confession: I will be 24 years old October 4th, and I still watch and love Blue's Clues! Only Steve, I don't want any of that Joe bs! :laugh:When my daughter was a toddler, Blues Clues was her favorite. The same show 5 days in a row. All summer long. (I was a teacher then and had summers off.)
There was only one episode with Joe I liked/like, and only because it had Randy Travis voicing a character. (I'm a big Randy Travis fan, it's sad to see how things have gone for him lately
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Ditto. How awful.pofoster21 wrote: »Original Poster who I will not identify for her sake, I'm glad I read it. I will reply with thoughts of my experience (and for those of you reading my experience is not at all the same, but something in what I'm saying may help her or someone else)
You have dealt with a lot. It does not matter what your orientation is in so far as what happened was in NO way, shape or form any fault of your own. At All. You are blameless. (HUGE HUGS). I am so sorry that you had the experiences you did.
**WARNING FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT BE TRIGGERED BY VIOLENCE - SKIP THE REST OF THIS POST PLEASE, THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS UPSET SOMEONE**
When I was 20 I met an acquaintance through a co-worker. He was a wealthy physician. He invited me to a barbecue. I was in no way attracted to him but I thought he was just being friendly and he was "known" so I said yes. I was drugged (the date rape drug) and have no recollection of what happened, but why would I be drugged if nothing happened?
The same year I was taken by two men in a situation where I thought there was a good chance I'd be killed and I was raped by one. I talked my way out of being raped by the second. I talked the first into a condom. I talked my way into being let go. I was shaken and I (kick myself for this one now) chalked it up to a hard learning experience and I moved on without reporting it and without telling anyone. Until 10 years later someone threatened by then 2 year old daughter. I took care of that situation IMMEDIATELY and have entirely put that person out of my life. I had flashbacks. I had nightmares. I sought counseling and was told I had PTSD. Counseling really helped me enormously. I reframed the incident so that I was strong and did everything I could to protect myself. I worked through the issues and I have not had issues since and that has been a number of years ago. Please seek counseling. Call the hotline number that you see for victims of ___ crimes even if you feel it does not apply to you because they can put you in touch with counselors. HUGE HUGE HUGS.
The first few counselors I saw were batty, find one you can work with. What happened does not define me nor do I think about it often. It is now just a tiny moment in time. You will get there. I believe in you and your bright future.
Oh my goodness. I am so sorry for this experience. I have nothing to say. Hugs.
Hugs to you, but mostly I'm heartened to read how this does not define you. You're one of the posters I look up to as being a particularly strong person, and reading this has made me have even more respect for you. I had my own nasty experience with a man and a lack of consent years ago (nowhere near as awful as what you described, but certainly illegal) and the thing I kicked myself about the most was the fact that I told no-one, even though there was a police van right outside where it happened so the opportunity was immediately there. Partly I didn't think anything could be done since I couldn't have positively IDed the guy, but mostly embarrassment, shame etc. Now I realise I had nothing to be embarrassed about. I am (and was) a confident and capable young woman, yet I didn't feel able/worthy of that policeman's time so I didn't bother him. How ridiculous. It reassures me that someone as clearly awesome at life as you can come from such a place and grow and get better. If this happened now, I know I would react differently. And I definitely wouldn't blame myself!
All this talk of sexual assault makes me wonder how many women have suffered this. I'll share my story that I have not talked about in many years. **IF YOU ARE BOTHERED BY ABUSE STORIES, STOP READING NOW! **
I was raped when I was 15, by my "boyfriend" and I was told I asked for it. I had indeed had a sexual relationship with this man (he was 22, and totally doing illegal stuff by dating me). One night I was at his house, and a bunch of his friends showed up, they were all drinking and smoking pot. I walked in the room and Steve said "hey ya'll want me to f*** her in front of ya'll? They all egged him on, and although I fought him, he forced me to the floor and ripped my clothes off and did what he wanted, it was awful, I was on my period at the time too, which made it seem much worse to me. I was crying and yelling at him to stop and all of a sudden, his younger brother came in and pulled him off me and beat the crap out of him. I was so thankful to him, yet so embarrassed and appalled at the other 4 guys in the room who sat there and did nothing while he was raping me right in front of them. Anyway, his brother took me home and went in the house with me to tell my dad what had happened, I was so impressed by him standing up against his brother to help me out. My dad was furious, but had the sense to call the sheriff and not take matters into his own hands. Anyway the Sheriff busted him for drug possession and a charge of statutory rape. I had been told by several people I asked for it and I refused to testify against him in court for this reason, I did not want anymore embarrassment. He ended up doing 3 years in prison for the drug charges and that was it. After I was married I ran into him in the grocery store where I was working one day and had a panic attack. It was a small town, and my boss asked him to leave the store after managing to get me to tell him what had happened. He was then not welcome in our store. That was OH so long ago, and I have not let it define me for sure.0 -
Okay, it arrived. I admit I ordered the small thinking that was appropriate for women...its a tad bit tiny (only in 2nd hole) but thinking that is a good reminder to keep weight off! Losing weight in my wrists was definitely a plus. I love seeing my wrist bones.
Charging now.0 -
@bkhamill, that is horrendous. I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I'm impressed that his brother acted like he did though, and I hope that restored a little bit of faith that some people can be decent. I'm glad to hear that you were somehow able to move on from that and not let it define your life.
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riderfangal wrote: »kellienw335 wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »I need someone to talk me out of going to Dairy Queen to use my B1G1F Blizzard!! My husband won't be home until late so if I go, I will end up eating probably 1.75 of the 2 because my son won't eat much of his. And no, I can't throw it away or save until tomorrow or any of that nonsense...
Ahhh
I know this already happened so the point may be mute, but you are beautiful and workout like a crazy woman (that's supposed to be a compliment), so I think you can spare a few calories on a Blizzard! Hope you enjoyed it!!! Your son is such a cutie!
I agree. @kelly_c_77 your step count motivates me every day to get moving!
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I put a tv in my daughter's room when she was about 2, so I wouldn't have to listen to Blues Clues, Barney, etc. The deciding factor on that decision was when she got a vhs of The Lion King and insisted on watching it over and over and over. We could all repeat almost the entire movie word for word.
I am a terrible person. 0 -
kellienw335 wrote: »
Drooling over the campfire s'mores!!! Burnt marshmallows are my favorite!spacequiztime wrote: »Order the campfire s'mores.
I was too full after the cheese sticks, crab legs, fries and hushpuppies (yep, not a vegetable in there at all) to get dessert! Have to try it another time I guess.0 -
Happy Canada Day!
I'm meant to be going camping with friends today, but the weather is a bit unsettled. We had a HUGE thunderstorm in the night. They have a nice new tent trailer which they will squeeze my son and I into if needed, but I'd rather not do that. I bought a new pop-up tent specially for the occasion but now I'm thinking maybe we'll go and have a nice day and evening with them, and then drive home.
Despite having been an awesome Girl Guide leader when my daughter was younger, I hate tent camping with a passion!
So do I! My idea of roughing it is using our fifth wheel where we don't have an electricity hookup and have to bring a generator!!0 -
My heart hurts for all of you that have been sexually assaulted. It's appalling that anyone who was assaulted would believe it was their fault for even one minute.
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I put a tv in my daughter's room when she was about 2, so I wouldn't have to listen to Blues Clues, Barney, etc. The deciding factor on that decision was when she got a vhs of The Lion King and insisted on watching it over and over and over. We could all repeat almost the entire movie word for word.
I am a terrible person.
Nah, we have a tv and DVD player in Raelynn's room because she loves to have the same movie on repeat. She watches Doc McStuffins or Sofia the First in the living room since that's the only TV hooked up to cable, but that's about it now. She has to have her tv on when she's asleep, so that's usually when she watches movies. Bad mommy, I know.. 0
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