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What are your unpopular opinions about health / fitness?
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Tacklewasher wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »xmichaelyx wrote: »On pregnancy:
You're not eating for 2; you're eating for 1.1.
Thank you for explaining that.
No. He was Man-splaining it.
No, he was stating an opinion, the whole point of this thread. It may be unpopular, you may disagree, but its still an opinion.5 -
born_of_fire74 wrote: »Mansplaining isn't a thing. Just because a man can't experience something personally, doesn't mean he doesn't know anything about it.
... And before you say 'I' am mansplaining, if you are still deludedly adament that I am, the same can in turn be applied to women. You don't know what men are experiencing, so don't 'womansplain'... Oh wait, does that sound ridiculous?
If mansplaining is not a thing, why do I have men at my parts counter (incorrectly) telling me how their car works when I'm a certified automotive technician and automotive parts person with over 17 years of experience in the industry? If mansplaining is not a thing, why do I have men at my parts counter arguing with me when they have come to the dealership to tap my knowledge and experience? (Like the tardball I just got off the phone with insisting that a wire is run directly from the battery to his 7-pin hitch connector only moments ago). If mansplaining is not a thing, why are there men at my parts counter who do not believe me when I tell them something but have no trouble believing any one of the men I work with when they say the exact same thing as I just did?
How about you GTFOH with your "mansplaining is not a thing" garbage?
How about because people can be morons without it being a gender issue.5 -
This reminds me of about 12 years ago (I think?) when my wife and I were car shopping - for my wife.
We walk around the lot, see a couple of cars we might be interested in. A salesman comes along and starts doing his thing, particularly talking to me. I tell him explicitly that we're looking for my wife. For whatever reason, he keeps telling me about certain features, pretty much ignoring my wife. I tell him that I don't really care too much, and that he should be talking to my wife, since any car we purchase will be for my wife. Oh, OK. Talks to her for less than a minute, then starts up with me again. My wife and I look at each other, and are like, "we've seen all we need to see." D-bag thinks he's made a sale - "oh, you want to take it for a test drive, let me..." "Nah, we're not interested in anything here at all."20 -
This reminds me of about 12 years ago (I think?) when my wife and I were car shopping - for my wife.
We walk around the lot, see a couple of cars we might be interested in. A salesman comes along and starts doing his thing, particularly talking to me. I tell him explicitly that we're looking for my wife. For whatever reason, he keeps telling me about certain features, pretty much ignoring my wife. I tell him that I don't really care too much, and that he should be talking to my wife, since any car we purchase will be for my wife. Oh, OK. Talks to her for less than a minute, then starts up with me again. My wife and I look at each other, and are like, "we've seen all we need to see." D-bag thinks he's made a sale - "oh, you want to take it for a test drive, let me..." "Nah, we're not interested in anything here at all."
When I was in my 20s I went car shopping and took my father with me. When we met our salesman, we made it clear that the car was for me. And yet the salesman kept talking directly to my dad, brushing off my questions, and barely even looked at me. My dad even flat out said several times: "he is the one buying the car, why don't you ask him?" But the salesman had such tunnel vision that he continued to ignore me. So he lost a commission that day. When it comes to sales, I think that a lot of them are trained to just lock on to the person who they assume is the decision maker and ignore everyone else, which is bad business.10 -
This reminds me of about 12 years ago (I think?) when my wife and I were car shopping - for my wife.
We walk around the lot, see a couple of cars we might be interested in. A salesman comes along and starts doing his thing, particularly talking to me. I tell him explicitly that we're looking for my wife. For whatever reason, he keeps telling me about certain features, pretty much ignoring my wife. I tell him that I don't really care too much, and that he should be talking to my wife, since any car we purchase will be for my wife. Oh, OK. Talks to her for less than a minute, then starts up with me again. My wife and I look at each other, and are like, "we've seen all we need to see." D-bag thinks he's made a sale - "oh, you want to take it for a test drive, let me..." "Nah, we're not interested in anything here at all."
I had something similar with taking my car to the shop. Since it would be there a while, I had a friend drive as well to drive me home. The guy kept discussing the repairs for my car with my friend (not even boyfriend). He told the guy several times he didn't care because it wasn't his car. Yet he continued talking as if I wasn't there. When I went back by myself, he was fine, but then there wasn't any options.3 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »
This reminds me of about 12 years ago (I think?) when my wife and I were car shopping - for my wife.
We walk around the lot, see a couple of cars we might be interested in. A salesman comes along and starts doing his thing, particularly talking to me. I tell him explicitly that we're looking for my wife. For whatever reason, he keeps telling me about certain features, pretty much ignoring my wife. I tell him that I don't really care too much, and that he should be talking to my wife, since any car we purchase will be for my wife. Oh, OK. Talks to her for less than a minute, then starts up with me again. My wife and I look at each other, and are like, "we've seen all we need to see." D-bag thinks he's made a sale - "oh, you want to take it for a test drive, let me..." "Nah, we're not interested in anything here at all."
When I was in my 20s I went car shopping and took my father with me. When we met our salesman, we made it clear that the car was for me. And yet the salesman kept talking directly to my dad, brushing off my questions, and barely even looked at me. My dad even flat out said several times: "he is the one buying the car, why don't you ask him?" But the salesman had such tunnel vision that he continued to ignore me. So he lost a commission that day. When it comes to sales, I think that a lot of them are trained to just lock on to the person who they assume is the decision maker and ignore everyone else, which is bad business.
That's a great point. It is in general a good business practice to treat all members of a family with respect, as the person to whom you [bad salesperson] are being condescending is perfectly capable of becoming a long-term loyal customer and making good referrals....5 -
Cheat Days full of sugar laiden meals and snacks are NOT OK if you already know that you have a problem with sugar. Once you kick the sugar habit (or at least get it under control), it really isn't a good idea to re incorporate it because you think you've earned it. Seems to me like you are just setting yourself up for the struggle and addiction all over again. Maybe others are strong enough to handle it. I am not.10
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stormcrow2 wrote: »born_of_fire74 wrote: »Mansplaining isn't a thing. Just because a man can't experience something personally, doesn't mean he doesn't know anything about it.
... And before you say 'I' am mansplaining, if you are still deludedly adament that I am, the same can in turn be applied to women. You don't know what men are experiencing, so don't 'womansplain'... Oh wait, does that sound ridiculous?
If mansplaining is not a thing, why do I have men at my parts counter (incorrectly) telling me how their car works when I'm a certified automotive technician and automotive parts person with over 17 years of experience in the industry? If mansplaining is not a thing, why do I have men at my parts counter arguing with me when they have come to the dealership to tap my knowledge and experience? (Like the tardball I just got off the phone with insisting that a wire is run directly from the battery to his 7-pin hitch connector only moments ago). If mansplaining is not a thing, why are there men at my parts counter who do not believe me when I tell them something but have no trouble believing any one of the men I work with when they say the exact same thing as I just did?
How about you GTFOH with your "mansplaining is not a thing" garbage?
How about because people can be morons without it being a gender issue.
Nice try but when I, the person with two forms of professional accreditation displayed on the wall above my work station, am ignored in favour of listening to the high-school aged boy who parks the cars for customers, it is clearly a gender issue.
You are now currently attempting to mansplain away my life experience because I, as a woman, am a far more unreliable narrator than any man who wasn't even witness to the events being discussed is.
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This is fun; I have one more. Just because you are overweight does not mean you are mentally ill or suffering from a psychological condition. I was not abused as a child, I did not have bad parents, I did not have a rough childhood, I am not "hurting inside". I just like hot wings and cake and French fries and I don't move nearly enough to burn those high fat, high density calories. I was raised with very decent eating habits, but I discovered that there was some really good food outside of the walls of my parent's home. Thus, I am overweight. I am not saying that some people don't suffer from psychological issues that contribute to their obesity, I am just saying that does not apply to everyone who is fat.21
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This reminds me of about 12 years ago (I think?) when my wife and I were car shopping - for my wife.
We walk around the lot, see a couple of cars we might be interested in. A salesman comes along and starts doing his thing, particularly talking to me. I tell him explicitly that we're looking for my wife. For whatever reason, he keeps telling me about certain features, pretty much ignoring my wife. I tell him that I don't really care too much, and that he should be talking to my wife, since any car we purchase will be for my wife. Oh, OK. Talks to her for less than a minute, then starts up with me again. My wife and I look at each other, and are like, "we've seen all we need to see." D-bag thinks he's made a sale - "oh, you want to take it for a test drive, let me..." "Nah, we're not interested in anything here at all."
We had a similar experience at 2-3 of the dealerships this past year. Even though it was for my girlfriend and she was the one paying. I was in no way, shape, or form involved in owning or buying the car.2 -
stormcrow2 wrote: »born_of_fire74 wrote: »Mansplaining isn't a thing. Just because a man can't experience something personally, doesn't mean he doesn't know anything about it.
... And before you say 'I' am mansplaining, if you are still deludedly adament that I am, the same can in turn be applied to women. You don't know what men are experiencing, so don't 'womansplain'... Oh wait, does that sound ridiculous?
If mansplaining is not a thing, why do I have men at my parts counter (incorrectly) telling me how their car works when I'm a certified automotive technician and automotive parts person with over 17 years of experience in the industry? If mansplaining is not a thing, why do I have men at my parts counter arguing with me when they have come to the dealership to tap my knowledge and experience? (Like the tardball I just got off the phone with insisting that a wire is run directly from the battery to his 7-pin hitch connector only moments ago). If mansplaining is not a thing, why are there men at my parts counter who do not believe me when I tell them something but have no trouble believing any one of the men I work with when they say the exact same thing as I just did?
How about you GTFOH with your "mansplaining is not a thing" garbage?
How about because people can be morons without it being a gender issue.
How about because male morons are pretty darned likely to talk down to women?
Yeah, I believe it's a special case of certain people being moronic, arrogant jerks, talking down to someone they implicitly consider to be of lower status. It's the case where the jerk is male, and the person they they're ignoring, condescending to, or insulting is a woman. Sadly, as others' stories illustrate, it's a dead-common case.
Do we need a special word for this thing? Meh. But it's a thing.10 -
stormcrow2 wrote: »born_of_fire74 wrote: »Mansplaining isn't a thing. Just because a man can't experience something personally, doesn't mean he doesn't know anything about it.
... And before you say 'I' am mansplaining, if you are still deludedly adament that I am, the same can in turn be applied to women. You don't know what men are experiencing, so don't 'womansplain'... Oh wait, does that sound ridiculous?
If mansplaining is not a thing, why do I have men at my parts counter (incorrectly) telling me how their car works when I'm a certified automotive technician and automotive parts person with over 17 years of experience in the industry? If mansplaining is not a thing, why do I have men at my parts counter arguing with me when they have come to the dealership to tap my knowledge and experience? (Like the tardball I just got off the phone with insisting that a wire is run directly from the battery to his 7-pin hitch connector only moments ago). If mansplaining is not a thing, why are there men at my parts counter who do not believe me when I tell them something but have no trouble believing any one of the men I work with when they say the exact same thing as I just did?
How about you GTFOH with your "mansplaining is not a thing" garbage?
How about because people can be morons without it being a gender issue.
How about because male morons are pretty darned likely to talk down to women?
Yeah, I believe it's a special case of certain people being moronic, arrogant jerks, talking down to someone they implicitly consider to be of lower status. It's the case where the jerk is male, and the person they they're ignoring, condescending to, or insulting is a woman. Sadly, as others' stories illustrate, it's a dead-common case.
Do we need a special word for this thing? Meh. But it's a thing.
I was thinking more along the lines of salesmen, especially car salesmen, who can read you and understand if you're a sucker or not within the first few minutes. They'll give the worst deals to people who don't understand much about cars, prices, etc. (mostly young people and people who are new to buying a car) My economics professor was talking to a friend who sold cars and he told him this. A woman student of his learned this from him and calculated everything at home after talking to the dealer about the price of the car, and it ended up being way off. The dealership was embarrassed and practically gave her the car so that she wouldn't give a terrible review and tell people not to go to that dealership. We learned how to calculate all the data so that we don't get screwed over. lol
To get on topic of an unpopular opinion about health/fitness, I think crossfit is a sureway to injure yourself and to not even understand how to do a proper pull-up, one of the most basic exercises, completely rids them of all credibility.3 -
When people talk down to anyone it's because they are threatened. It's easy to fake confidence, quite difficult to grasp and retain true confidence as it takes consistency, discipline, and hard work.
Looking at this in a positive perspective take it as a compliment if someone speaks down to you.
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I believe people who have always been fit are just as impressive as people who become obese and then lose a lot of weight.16
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Bry_Lander wrote: »I believe people who have always been fit are just as impressive as people who become obese and then lose a lot of weight.
I think they are more impressive in certain ways.5 -
born_of_fire74 wrote: »Mansplaining isn't a thing. Just because a man can't experience something personally, doesn't mean he doesn't know anything about it.
... And before you say 'I' am mansplaining, if you are still deludedly adament that I am, the same can in turn be applied to women. You don't know what men are experiencing, so don't 'womansplain'... Oh wait, does that sound ridiculous?
If mansplaining is not a thing, why do I have men at my parts counter (incorrectly) telling me how their car works when I'm a certified automotive technician and automotive parts person with over 17 years of experience in the industry? If mansplaining is not a thing, why do I have men at my parts counter arguing with me when they have come to the dealership to tap my knowledge and experience? (Like the tardball I just got off the phone with insisting that a wire is run directly from the battery to his 7-pin hitch connector only moments ago). If mansplaining is not a thing, why are there men at my parts counter who do not believe me when I tell them something but have no trouble believing any one of the men I work with when they say the exact same thing as I just did?
How about you GTFOH with your "mansplaining is not a thing" garbage?
because they are idiots, maybe? Not every clown who is a moron is "mansplaining" whatever happened to just being ignorant without having to interject some kind of gender, race, etc comment into it?13 -
born_of_fire74 wrote: »Mansplaining isn't a thing. Just because a man can't experience something personally, doesn't mean he doesn't know anything about it.
... And before you say 'I' am mansplaining, if you are still deludedly adament that I am, the same can in turn be applied to women. You don't know what men are experiencing, so don't 'womansplain'... Oh wait, does that sound ridiculous?
If mansplaining is not a thing, why do I have men at my parts counter (incorrectly) telling me how their car works when I'm a certified automotive technician and automotive parts person with over 17 years of experience in the industry? If mansplaining is not a thing, why do I have men at my parts counter arguing with me when they have come to the dealership to tap my knowledge and experience? (Like the tardball I just got off the phone with insisting that a wire is run directly from the battery to his 7-pin hitch connector only moments ago). If mansplaining is not a thing, why are there men at my parts counter who do not believe me when I tell them something but have no trouble believing any one of the men I work with when they say the exact same thing as I just did?
How about you GTFOH with your "mansplaining is not a thing" garbage?
It's entirely possible that it has to do with where you're standing and how you're dressed vs your gender.8 -
My unpopular opinion is that there is no way we all need to be drinking all this water. I see multiple people bring in their water bottles for a 45 MINUTE church service. Seriously? I know some people may have medical conditions or dry mouth or whatever, but your average person can't make it 45 minutes without their water?? It's like a weird status thing.
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I think it makes a big difference what foods you eat, not just how many calories you consume. Your body cares about nutrients and other things as well, and having experimented with all this, I am pretty secure in how I feel about it.4
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