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I love sweet/savoury together too. I also love hot and cold things together, which I know a lot of people think it weird (fries with salad, custard (English style) with a big blob of vanilla ice cream etc.riderfangal wrote: »AngryViking1970 wrote: »CountessKitteh wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »riderfangal wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »orangesmartie wrote: »orangesmartie wrote: »FOR ORANGESMARTIE:
Keep on climbing that mountain, baby steps at a time. Sending all good wishes for your mum's surgery today. Have you taken your pill today? If not, go and do it now... Right now... Good. (((HUGS)))
Thank you everyone for supportive messages.
I have taken my tablets today and yesterday.
@MoHousdon I love the idea that this is a village. I'm imagining us all in little English country cottages, nattering over the garden fence and on the village green
Good for you!
I would love that! As long as I can eat cookies and have tea. I would make an EXCELLENT English person/woman. Plus, I do a pretty good English accent.
I may have been doing one in my head just then.
Here, you have biscuits and tea. Cookies are 'merican
Alright, biscuits, then.
Biscuits always brings hard cookies to my mind, like Oreos or Digestives. Not that I have anything against them, but I want soft, chewy, gooey COOKIES!
Or you know what? Gimme a scone. With butter.
I miss scones. Never been able to enjoy one since my Grandma passed away. She made the best and always made a special batch for me without raisins. I hate raisins!!
Count me in on the raisin-hating wagon!! In traditional Arabian dishes, raisins are popular to put into the rice. Makes me want to gag when I accidentally pop one into my mouth... X_X I *HATE* raisins. By themselves they're bad enough, but they absolutely ruin food for me when they're put into things like cookies or puddings. :-/
I am quite known for telling people that raisins "do not belong in food."
I do have a bag of the super tiny boxes in my office though. They're good for blood sugar headaches. Stupid raisins.
My mom always put raisins in the stuffing at Thanksgiving. I love it and thought everybody did that until the first time I cooked Thanksgiving dinner for my husband. He was like "what the hell is this?!". LMAO 11 years later and he still fears the raisins.
I put dried cranberries in mine. Yummy.
No, no, no, fruit does not belong in stuffing..not judging though
I'm one of those weird people who like sweet and savory in the same dishes. I also like to add golden raisins to my vegetable salads. Just for a tiny sweet burst. I put them in my homemade applesauce, too.
I too love sweet and savory together. Or sweet and salty. It's funny you mention fries with salad, because I almost ordered fries with my Wendy's salad last night. I instead, went home and made a 144 gram baked potato with 2 servings of real butter and a serving of sour cream. The salad was disappointing but the potato most definitely was not.
What is English style custard?
I love sweet and salty. Ham and melon. A piece of chocolate followed by cheese and onion crisps. I wrap lettuce around my fries often, didn't really think of it as part of that.0 -
xMrBunglex wrote: »CountessKitteh wrote: »Can I just say how awesome this thread has become?
Yes, it started out about trash bags, peanut butter, and hot chocolate powder, but it has evolved into a community within the MFP community where people actually CARE and SUPPORT one another through stupid decisions, horrible situations, and hilarious escapades.
You all rock. And if I wasn't super lazy, I would finally get around to friend requesting the rest of the regular posters.
Super great.
Speaking of stupid decisions, I confess that when I was 20 (way back in 1989...YIKES), I was living on my own for the first time. Cut all my rocker hair off & was bummed how fat I looked.
I then went on a crash diet that consisted of the following:
Breakfast: Can of Diet Coke
Morning Snack: Can of Diet Coke
Lunch: Turkey sandwich (2 pieces of bread, 1 slice of deli turkey, 1 slice of deli swiss, mustard)
Afternoon Snack: Can of Diet Coke
Workout: 45-60 minutes on a cheap-*kitten* rowing machine I had in my apartment
Dinner: 6 pack of Bud Light tall boys
I was a chubby 210 lbs when I started, and a thin 165 after 4 months. From there I started weight training.
I'd get slaughtered for suggesting this in 2015, but....I lived to tell the tale
Edited to add: Just did the MFP calculator:
1100 in
497 out
BMR: 1,985
Daily Deficit: 1,382
that's about 3 lbs per week - the maths add up!
Oh god. I've never shared this one, but you've inspired me, lol. So I was 28 and weighed 112. I decided I "needed" to weigh 100 (ex-husband who always told me I looked out-of-shape + my tendencies toward being a perfectionist + coming from a family where I was the "smart one" but my mom and sister were models who just never thought I looked good + just general stupidity). My brilliant "diet"?
Breakfast: Coffee and a Ry-Krisp
Morning snack: Half an apple and a Diet Pepsi
Lunch: a slice of turkey, a slice of cheese, and the other half of the apple
Afternoon snack: Diet Pepsi and cocaine (yep)
Late afternoon: 2.5 hour workout: free weights, elliptical, and swimming
Dinner: Vegetable soup or a salad with no dressing, wine, and more cocaine
So yeah. I reached 100 pounds that way, but also spiraled into an increasingly crazy lifestyle until I simply decided enough was enough and did what I needed to do (which is another story I don't need to bore you with).
I am glad to step in and try to let MFP posters and others know that they don't NEED that latest fad diet or "diet aid". But I try to be at least somewhat gentle/compassionate because I know too well how insane we get when we're desperately trying to reach some stupidly unrealistic goal, are surrounded by ill-informed or toxic people, and have no clue about what real health really means.
No wonder you had energy for a 2.5 hour workout. WOW. I'm glad you were able to kick the habit and find a healthy way to lose weight. A salad without dressing sounds vile.
Yeah, I am boring and happy these days. I think the only substance I ingest with any remotely mind-altering properties is coffee (I don't care to drink. I've nothing against it; I just don't feel like it offers anything of value to me). Life's been very good for a very long time
Good for you. That's great to hear.
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xMrBunglex wrote: »CountessKitteh wrote: »Can I just say how awesome this thread has become?
Yes, it started out about trash bags, peanut butter, and hot chocolate powder, but it has evolved into a community within the MFP community where people actually CARE and SUPPORT one another through stupid decisions, horrible situations, and hilarious escapades.
You all rock. And if I wasn't super lazy, I would finally get around to friend requesting the rest of the regular posters.
Super great.
Speaking of stupid decisions, I confess that when I was 20 (way back in 1989...YIKES), I was living on my own for the first time. Cut all my rocker hair off & was bummed how fat I looked.
I then went on a crash diet that consisted of the following:
Breakfast: Can of Diet Coke
Morning Snack: Can of Diet Coke
Lunch: Turkey sandwich (2 pieces of bread, 1 slice of deli turkey, 1 slice of deli swiss, mustard)
Afternoon Snack: Can of Diet Coke
Workout: 45-60 minutes on a cheap-*kitten* rowing machine I had in my apartment
Dinner: 6 pack of Bud Light tall boys
I was a chubby 210 lbs when I started, and a thin 165 after 4 months. From there I started weight training.
I'd get slaughtered for suggesting this in 2015, but....I lived to tell the tale
Edited to add: Just did the MFP calculator:
1100 in
497 out
BMR: 1,985
Daily Deficit: 1,382
that's about 3 lbs per week - the maths add up!
Oh god. I've never shared this one, but you've inspired me, lol. So I was 28 and weighed 112. I decided I "needed" to weigh 100 (ex-husband who always told me I looked out-of-shape + my tendencies toward being a perfectionist + coming from a family where I was the "smart one" but my mom and sister were models who just never thought I looked good + just general stupidity). My brilliant "diet"?
Breakfast: Coffee and a Ry-Krisp
Morning snack: Half an apple and a Diet Pepsi
Lunch: a slice of turkey, a slice of cheese, and the other half of the apple
Afternoon snack: Diet Pepsi and cocaine (yep)
Late afternoon: 2.5 hour workout: free weights, elliptical, and swimming
Dinner: Vegetable soup or a salad with no dressing, wine, and more cocaine
So yeah. I reached 100 pounds that way, but also spiraled into an increasingly crazy lifestyle until I simply decided enough was enough and did what I needed to do (which is another story I don't need to bore you with).
I am glad to step in and try to let MFP posters and others know that they don't NEED that latest fad diet or "diet aid". But I try to be at least somewhat gentle/compassionate because I know too well how insane we get when we're desperately trying to reach some stupidly unrealistic goal, are surrounded by ill-informed or toxic people, and have no clue about what real health really means.
No wonder you had energy for a 2.5 hour workout. WOW. I'm glad you were able to kick the habit and find a healthy way to lose weight. A salad without dressing sounds vile.
Agree - glad you kicked the habit.
I remember back when I was in my 20's, I had never eaten a salad (REFUSED as a kid/teenager). When I first started trying to eat salad, I didn't realize people put dressing on it. No wonder I didn't like it for the longest time. LOL0 -
I have worse. Did you see my earlier confession when I mentioned how my husband nearly ate my newborn's severed umbilicus, thinking it was a stray raisin?berlynnwall wrote: »I like raisins on their own, but not in things. And the worst is when you think it's a chocolate chip, but it's really a raisin. Blech.
+1
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Yep, I can see how that'd do it.xMrBunglex wrote: »CountessKitteh wrote: »Can I just say how awesome this thread has become?
Yes, it started out about trash bags, peanut butter, and hot chocolate powder, but it has evolved into a community within the MFP community where people actually CARE and SUPPORT one another through stupid decisions, horrible situations, and hilarious escapades.
You all rock. And if I wasn't super lazy, I would finally get around to friend requesting the rest of the regular posters.
Super great.
Speaking of stupid decisions, I confess that when I was 20 (way back in 1989...YIKES), I was living on my own for the first time. Cut all my rocker hair off & was bummed how fat I looked.
I then went on a crash diet that consisted of the following:
Breakfast: Can of Diet Coke
Morning Snack: Can of Diet Coke
Lunch: Turkey sandwich (2 pieces of bread, 1 slice of deli turkey, 1 slice of deli swiss, mustard)
Afternoon Snack: Can of Diet Coke
Workout: 45-60 minutes on a cheap-*kitten* rowing machine I had in my apartment
Dinner: 6 pack of Bud Light tall boys
I was a chubby 210 lbs when I started, and a thin 165 after 4 months. From there I started weight training.
I'd get slaughtered for suggesting this in 2015, but....I lived to tell the tale
Edited to add: Just did the MFP calculator:
1100 in
497 out
BMR: 1,985
Daily Deficit: 1,382
that's about 3 lbs per week - the maths add up!
Oh god. I've never shared this one, but you've inspired me, lol. So I was 28 and weighed 112. I decided I "needed" to weigh 100 (ex-husband who always told me I looked out-of-shape + my tendencies toward being a perfectionist + coming from a family where I was the "smart one" but my mom and sister were models who just never thought I looked good + just general stupidity). My brilliant "diet"?
Breakfast: Coffee and a Ry-Krisp
Morning snack: Half an apple and a Diet Pepsi
Lunch: a slice of turkey, a slice of cheese, and the other half of the apple
Afternoon snack: Diet Pepsi and cocaine (yep)
Late afternoon: 2.5 hour workout: free weights, elliptical, and swimming
Dinner: Vegetable soup or a salad with no dressing, wine, and more cocaine
So yeah. I reached 100 pounds that way, but also spiraled into an increasingly crazy lifestyle until I simply decided enough was enough and did what I needed to do (which is another story I don't need to bore you with).
I am glad to step in and try to let MFP posters and others know that they don't NEED that latest fad diet or "diet aid". But I try to be at least somewhat gentle/compassionate because I know too well how insane we get when we're desperately trying to reach some stupidly unrealistic goal, are surrounded by ill-informed or toxic people, and have no clue about what real health really means.
Confession: My son was briefly on ADHD meds but he reacted badly to them. There's still about a month's supply in our medicine cabinet and I'd be a liar if I said I hadn't thought more than once about taking them to see if they'd help me shift the last 10 lbs. It's basically speed.
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girldownsouth wrote: »orangesmartie wrote: »orangesmartie wrote: »FOR ORANGESMARTIE:
Keep on climbing that mountain, baby steps at a time. Sending all good wishes for your mum's surgery today. Have you taken your pill today? If not, go and do it now... Right now... Good. (((HUGS)))
Thank you everyone for supportive messages.
I have taken my tablets today and yesterday.
@MoHousdon I love the idea that this is a village. I'm imagining us all in little English country cottages, nattering over the garden fence and on the village green
Good for you!
I would love that! As long as I can eat cookies and have tea. I would make an EXCELLENT English person/woman. Plus, I do a pretty good English accent.
I may have been doing one in my head just then.
Here, you have biscuits and tea. Cookies are 'merican
I was going to make the same correction. Us Brits are sensitive about our biscuits apparently.
No offense intended. I guess I wouldn't make a good Brit after all.
Definitely none taken. I'm sure you'd get by just fine. I'd like to hear your accent. I love hearing Americans try and do it. A guy I used to work with said his favourite word to say was 'people' and it cracked me up when he said it.
My favourite thing to do in an American (southern) accent is rhyme wagon and dragging...0 -
"Peepouw"?girldownsouth wrote: »girldownsouth wrote: »orangesmartie wrote: »orangesmartie wrote: »FOR ORANGESMARTIE:
Keep on climbing that mountain, baby steps at a time. Sending all good wishes for your mum's surgery today. Have you taken your pill today? If not, go and do it now... Right now... Good. (((HUGS)))
Thank you everyone for supportive messages.
I have taken my tablets today and yesterday.
@MoHousdon I love the idea that this is a village. I'm imagining us all in little English country cottages, nattering over the garden fence and on the village green
Good for you!
I would love that! As long as I can eat cookies and have tea. I would make an EXCELLENT English person/woman. Plus, I do a pretty good English accent.
I may have been doing one in my head just then.
Here, you have biscuits and tea. Cookies are 'merican
I was going to make the same correction. Us Brits are sensitive about our biscuits apparently.
No offense intended. I guess I wouldn't make a good Brit after all.
Definitely none taken. I'm sure you'd get by just fine. I'd like to hear your accent. I love hearing Americans try and do it. A guy I used to work with said his favourite word to say was 'people' and it cracked me up when he said it.
My favourite thing to do in an American (southern) accent is rhyme wagon and dragging...
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Hard avocados are one of life's great disappointments.rungirl1973 wrote: »xMrBunglex wrote: »CountessKitteh wrote: »Can I just say how awesome this thread has become?
Yes, it started out about trash bags, peanut butter, and hot chocolate powder, but it has evolved into a community within the MFP community where people actually CARE and SUPPORT one another through stupid decisions, horrible situations, and hilarious escapades.
You all rock. And if I wasn't super lazy, I would finally get around to friend requesting the rest of the regular posters.
Super great.
Speaking of stupid decisions, I confess that when I was 20 (way back in 1989...YIKES), I was living on my own for the first time. Cut all my rocker hair off & was bummed how fat I looked.
I then went on a crash diet that consisted of the following:
Breakfast: Can of Diet Coke
Morning Snack: Can of Diet Coke
Lunch: Turkey sandwich (2 pieces of bread, 1 slice of deli turkey, 1 slice of deli swiss, mustard)
Afternoon Snack: Can of Diet Coke
Workout: 45-60 minutes on a cheap-*kitten* rowing machine I had in my apartment
Dinner: 6 pack of Bud Light tall boys
I was a chubby 210 lbs when I started, and a thin 165 after 4 months. From there I started weight training.
I'd get slaughtered for suggesting this in 2015, but....I lived to tell the tale
Edited to add: Just did the MFP calculator:
1100 in
497 out
BMR: 1,985
Daily Deficit: 1,382
that's about 3 lbs per week - the maths add up!
Oh god. I've never shared this one, but you've inspired me, lol. So I was 28 and weighed 112. I decided I "needed" to weigh 100 (ex-husband who always told me I looked out-of-shape + my tendencies toward being a perfectionist + coming from a family where I was the "smart one" but my mom and sister were models who just never thought I looked good + just general stupidity). My brilliant "diet"?
Breakfast: Coffee and a Ry-Krisp
Morning snack: Half an apple and a Diet Pepsi
Lunch: a slice of turkey, a slice of cheese, and the other half of the apple
Afternoon snack: Diet Pepsi and cocaine (yep)
Late afternoon: 2.5 hour workout: free weights, elliptical, and swimming
Dinner: Vegetable soup or a salad with no dressing, wine, and more cocaine
So yeah. I reached 100 pounds that way, but also spiraled into an increasingly crazy lifestyle until I simply decided enough was enough and did what I needed to do (which is another story I don't need to bore you with).
I am glad to step in and try to let MFP posters and others know that they don't NEED that latest fad diet or "diet aid". But I try to be at least somewhat gentle/compassionate because I know too well how insane we get when we're desperately trying to reach some stupidly unrealistic goal, are surrounded by ill-informed or toxic people, and have no clue about what real health really means.
No wonder you had energy for a 2.5 hour workout. WOW. I'm glad you were able to kick the habit and find a healthy way to lose weight. A salad without dressing sounds vile.
Agree - glad you kicked the habit.
I remember back when I was in my 20's, I had never eaten a salad (REFUSED as a kid/teenager). When I first started trying to eat salad, I didn't realize people put dressing on it. No wonder I didn't like it for the longest time. LOL
You remind me a bit of a friend I had who moved to the west from the midwest. We were shopping together for a potluck, and I told her I was going to get some avocados to make guacamole. She made a face and told me she hated avocados. This shocked me, as I just can't imagine hating avocados! Well, it turns out that she didn't know they had to be ripe before you eat them. So her only experience with them was that she'd bought these pathetic little rock-hard avocados and had tried to have them on a salad, lol!
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I was just beginning my dieting career around that time, and could also confess to some pretty poor choices. Somehow we made it through, with our metabolisms intact. Personally I blame Rosemary Conley.xMrBunglex wrote: »CountessKitteh wrote: »Can I just say how awesome this thread has become?
Yes, it started out about trash bags, peanut butter, and hot chocolate powder, but it has evolved into a community within the MFP community where people actually CARE and SUPPORT one another through stupid decisions, horrible situations, and hilarious escapades.
You all rock. And if I wasn't super lazy, I would finally get around to friend requesting the rest of the regular posters.
Super great.
Speaking of stupid decisions, I confess that when I was 20 (way back in 1989...YIKES), I was living on my own for the first time. Cut all my rocker hair off & was bummed how fat I looked.
I then went on a crash diet that consisted of the following:
Breakfast: Can of Diet Coke
Morning Snack: Can of Diet Coke
Lunch: Turkey sandwich (2 pieces of bread, 1 slice of deli turkey, 1 slice of deli swiss, mustard)
Afternoon Snack: Can of Diet Coke
Workout: 45-60 minutes on a cheap-*kitten* rowing machine I had in my apartment
Dinner: 6 pack of Bud Light tall boys
I was a chubby 210 lbs when I started, and a thin 165 after 4 months. From there I started weight training.
I'd get slaughtered for suggesting this in 2015, but....I lived to tell the tale
Edited to add: Just did the MFP calculator:
1100 in
497 out
BMR: 1,985
Daily Deficit: 1,382
that's about 3 lbs per week - the maths add up!
I always think of her when I sautée mushrooms in herbs and butter as she said never cook them with fat as they are like little sponges and now I think of them as delicious little sponges.
I think she's also responsible for my mum's less is best attitude to dieting though.0 -
berlynnwall wrote: »berlynnwall wrote: »
Yeah, that's tricky. I'll be interested to see if anyone else offers advice. My daughter is working now, but the plan is that this is a year off from university while she gets her health in check. We're still paying for her phone etc and she has use of a car (kind of shared between her and her brother), and I'm wondering if we should expect her to pay something towards her keep.I did it. I messaged my stepdaughter. This is what I said.
"You need to message your dad. He needs to talk to you, but you haven't returned his text message. Also, Sunday is Father's Day and I didn't know if you were planning on being around."
It was probably not the nicest message, but it's a lot nicer than what I wanted to say which is this.
Come pick up your cat from hell, give me my key, get your stuff, and get out. You obviously don't want to be a part of our lives and I'm not going to be your storage unit and cat's caretaker anymore. Your dad has tried really hard to make sure you feel a part of our family, we all have, and you've done nothing but take advantage of that and I've had enough. Oh, and I expect you to have a check for $400 for your tags to your dad by Monday.
Every time I think about her and what's been going on, I get so angry and want to cry (that's probably more PMS) and I just hoped when she came into our lives, things would be so different. I'm sad now.
How many times did you consider sending the second message and then erase it? If she didn't have the money for the tags, the car would have to stay at the house.
I never typed any part of the second message, I just thought it and have been for quite some time now.
My husband brought this up during our "discussion" (fight) last Friday. He asked if I wanted him to take the car away from her if she couldn't pay the tags, and I said no because then she wouldn't have any way to get to work. Although, that's not really my problem. I wasn't relying on other people when I was 19, I had a car that I paid for and was working AND going to college full time. I know she's not me, but she needs to learn some accountability and responsibility. I might make the suggestion that until she CAN pay for the tags, that he drive the car since it's in his name anyway.
I'm afraid that if I keep bringing this up to my husband, we'll have a terrible vacation and anniversary and I've waited 15 DAMN years for this and I REFUSE to let her ruin that for us. Why does she have to be such a selfish brat?!
Whatever happens, I am sure you and your hubby will be all the stronger for it. You are dealing with it together. I kind of have a similar thing, although the stepson lives in our house, we never see him due to work or his being out with friends, or he's asleep while we are all home. He's 23, we have gotten several used cars for him, this current one, he has been told will be the last one we purchase. Still he has no incentive to find his own place and move out. Our house is a little cramped and I had planned to move my youngest into his room, when I was under the impression he was moving out with a friend. That fell through, so now we are stuck. Still paying for his phone and car insurance too. He has been asked to pay for these things and has not begun to pay for them. His job is enough for him to pay for that at least. I am pretty frustrated myself.
Just my opinion, but I think that adults over 20 should definitely be paying something towards their keep, if not paying for all their own extras while living at home (car, phone, non-essentials). In my experience, people whose parents give them a free ride with no end in sight often just milk it for all it's worth.
I may just be jealous though because my mom made me watch my baby brother for free after school and all day in the summer from the time I was 12 until I was 17 so she could work two jobs. Then, when I was 17 she made me get a real job and contribute to the household with the money I made. These kids don't know how good they have it and it irrationally bothers me.
I agree, but it's not all "good". It's a short-term enabling and then they have no idea how to deal with the real world. I'm sorry you are bitter about some things in your past, but honestly, I guarantee that made you a better, stronger person!
That's so true. A cousin of mine had wealthy parents, and they paid for everything - car, college, off campus apartment, spending money... he had to do nothing but go to class. I would have KILLED for that opportunity. I love school and would have done so well with that kind of support. My cousin? He failed out of college, flooded his apartment screwing around with the fire alarm, and became a criminal. Seriously.
Sadly, this is common.
I'm afraid to admit this now, but my parents paid my tuition, books, rent, groceries, bought me a brand-new car, etc etc for university. They're comfortable, not wealthy, but I'm an only child so they only had one to pay for, they had the money, and they wanted me to be able to focus on school. I bartended a few nights a week, but mostly I just went to school. But I did graduate on time with the degree I wanted and got a "grown up job" right afterwards, so, uh, there's that?
However, I did take four years off before I went to university and had a job and paid my bills by myself all that time, so I already had the life skills to take care of myself by the time they started paying for stuff, so maybe that helps?
It kind of rubs me the wrong way when people assume I'm a spoiled brat because my parents were in a position to help me out a lot with school and I didn't have to struggle or take out loans, though. Not saying you guys are implying that...but just in general, I really don't think it makes me a bad person.
Also, I'm glad you all appreciate my Toddlers & Tiaras gif. I used to PVR that series like crazy. No shame.
I don't think that everyone who has parents who help them is spoiled at all. I think it's another case of a bunch of idiots (and it seems like almost *everyone* knows someone like my dumb cousin) making a whole group look bad. I think if my parents had been able to help me, I would have ended up successful and grateful instead of entitled and lazy, and I think that there are other people out there like us. It just seems that there are more of the other kind unfortunately 0 -
rungirl1973 wrote: »xMrBunglex wrote: »CountessKitteh wrote: »Can I just say how awesome this thread has become?
Yes, it started out about trash bags, peanut butter, and hot chocolate powder, but it has evolved into a community within the MFP community where people actually CARE and SUPPORT one another through stupid decisions, horrible situations, and hilarious escapades.
You all rock. And if I wasn't super lazy, I would finally get around to friend requesting the rest of the regular posters.
Super great.
Speaking of stupid decisions, I confess that when I was 20 (way back in 1989...YIKES), I was living on my own for the first time. Cut all my rocker hair off & was bummed how fat I looked.
I then went on a crash diet that consisted of the following:
Breakfast: Can of Diet Coke
Morning Snack: Can of Diet Coke
Lunch: Turkey sandwich (2 pieces of bread, 1 slice of deli turkey, 1 slice of deli swiss, mustard)
Afternoon Snack: Can of Diet Coke
Workout: 45-60 minutes on a cheap-*kitten* rowing machine I had in my apartment
Dinner: 6 pack of Bud Light tall boys
I was a chubby 210 lbs when I started, and a thin 165 after 4 months. From there I started weight training.
I'd get slaughtered for suggesting this in 2015, but....I lived to tell the tale
Edited to add: Just did the MFP calculator:
1100 in
497 out
BMR: 1,985
Daily Deficit: 1,382
that's about 3 lbs per week - the maths add up!
Oh god. I've never shared this one, but you've inspired me, lol. So I was 28 and weighed 112. I decided I "needed" to weigh 100 (ex-husband who always told me I looked out-of-shape + my tendencies toward being a perfectionist + coming from a family where I was the "smart one" but my mom and sister were models who just never thought I looked good + just general stupidity). My brilliant "diet"?
Breakfast: Coffee and a Ry-Krisp
Morning snack: Half an apple and a Diet Pepsi
Lunch: a slice of turkey, a slice of cheese, and the other half of the apple
Afternoon snack: Diet Pepsi and cocaine (yep)
Late afternoon: 2.5 hour workout: free weights, elliptical, and swimming
Dinner: Vegetable soup or a salad with no dressing, wine, and more cocaine
So yeah. I reached 100 pounds that way, but also spiraled into an increasingly crazy lifestyle until I simply decided enough was enough and did what I needed to do (which is another story I don't need to bore you with).
I am glad to step in and try to let MFP posters and others know that they don't NEED that latest fad diet or "diet aid". But I try to be at least somewhat gentle/compassionate because I know too well how insane we get when we're desperately trying to reach some stupidly unrealistic goal, are surrounded by ill-informed or toxic people, and have no clue about what real health really means.
No wonder you had energy for a 2.5 hour workout. WOW. I'm glad you were able to kick the habit and find a healthy way to lose weight. A salad without dressing sounds vile.
Agree - glad you kicked the habit.
I remember back when I was in my 20's, I had never eaten a salad (REFUSED as a kid/teenager). When I first started trying to eat salad, I didn't realize people put dressing on it. No wonder I didn't like it for the longest time. LOL
You remind me a bit of a friend I had who moved to the west from the midwest. We were shopping together for a potluck, and I told her I was going to get some avocados to make guacamole. She made a face and told me she hated avocados. This shocked me, as I just can't imagine hating avocados! Well, it turns out that she didn't know they had to be ripe before you eat them. So her only experience with them was that she'd bought these pathetic little rock-hard avocados and had tried to have them on a salad, lol!
LOL! Yeah, it's quite disappointing when they aren't ripe.
My daughter always "hated" avocados (I suspect because they're green) until she moved out and her roommate made her try it.0 -
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berlynnwall wrote: »berlynnwall wrote: »
Yeah, that's tricky. I'll be interested to see if anyone else offers advice. My daughter is working now, but the plan is that this is a year off from university while she gets her health in check. We're still paying for her phone etc and she has use of a car (kind of shared between her and her brother), and I'm wondering if we should expect her to pay something towards her keep.I did it. I messaged my stepdaughter. This is what I said.
"You need to message your dad. He needs to talk to you, but you haven't returned his text message. Also, Sunday is Father's Day and I didn't know if you were planning on being around."
It was probably not the nicest message, but it's a lot nicer than what I wanted to say which is this.
Come pick up your cat from hell, give me my key, get your stuff, and get out. You obviously don't want to be a part of our lives and I'm not going to be your storage unit and cat's caretaker anymore. Your dad has tried really hard to make sure you feel a part of our family, we all have, and you've done nothing but take advantage of that and I've had enough. Oh, and I expect you to have a check for $400 for your tags to your dad by Monday.
Every time I think about her and what's been going on, I get so angry and want to cry (that's probably more PMS) and I just hoped when she came into our lives, things would be so different. I'm sad now.
How many times did you consider sending the second message and then erase it? If she didn't have the money for the tags, the car would have to stay at the house.
I never typed any part of the second message, I just thought it and have been for quite some time now.
My husband brought this up during our "discussion" (fight) last Friday. He asked if I wanted him to take the car away from her if she couldn't pay the tags, and I said no because then she wouldn't have any way to get to work. Although, that's not really my problem. I wasn't relying on other people when I was 19, I had a car that I paid for and was working AND going to college full time. I know she's not me, but she needs to learn some accountability and responsibility. I might make the suggestion that until she CAN pay for the tags, that he drive the car since it's in his name anyway.
I'm afraid that if I keep bringing this up to my husband, we'll have a terrible vacation and anniversary and I've waited 15 DAMN years for this and I REFUSE to let her ruin that for us. Why does she have to be such a selfish brat?!
Whatever happens, I am sure you and your hubby will be all the stronger for it. You are dealing with it together. I kind of have a similar thing, although the stepson lives in our house, we never see him due to work or his being out with friends, or he's asleep while we are all home. He's 23, we have gotten several used cars for him, this current one, he has been told will be the last one we purchase. Still he has no incentive to find his own place and move out. Our house is a little cramped and I had planned to move my youngest into his room, when I was under the impression he was moving out with a friend. That fell through, so now we are stuck. Still paying for his phone and car insurance too. He has been asked to pay for these things and has not begun to pay for them. His job is enough for him to pay for that at least. I am pretty frustrated myself.
Just my opinion, but I think that adults over 20 should definitely be paying something towards their keep, if not paying for all their own extras while living at home (car, phone, non-essentials). In my experience, people whose parents give them a free ride with no end in sight often just milk it for all it's worth.
I may just be jealous though because my mom made me watch my baby brother for free after school and all day in the summer from the time I was 12 until I was 17 so she could work two jobs. Then, when I was 17 she made me get a real job and contribute to the household with the money I made. These kids don't know how good they have it and it irrationally bothers me.
I agree, but it's not all "good". It's a short-term enabling and then they have no idea how to deal with the real world. I'm sorry you are bitter about some things in your past, but honestly, I guarantee that made you a better, stronger person!
That's so true. A cousin of mine had wealthy parents, and they paid for everything - car, college, off campus apartment, spending money... he had to do nothing but go to class. I would have KILLED for that opportunity. I love school and would have done so well with that kind of support. My cousin? He failed out of college, flooded his apartment screwing around with the fire alarm, and became a criminal. Seriously.
Sadly, this is common.
I'm afraid to admit this now, but my parents paid my tuition, books, rent, groceries, bought me a brand-new car, etc etc for university. They're comfortable, not wealthy, but I'm an only child so they only had one to pay for, they had the money, and they wanted me to be able to focus on school. I bartended a few nights a week, but mostly I just went to school. But I did graduate on time with the degree I wanted and got a "grown up job" right afterwards, so, uh, there's that?
However, I did take four years off before I went to university and had a job and paid my bills by myself all that time, so I already had the life skills to take care of myself by the time they started paying for stuff, so maybe that helps?
It kind of rubs me the wrong way when people assume I'm a spoiled brat because my parents were in a position to help me out a lot with school and I didn't have to struggle or take out loans, though. Not saying you guys are implying that...but just in general, I really don't think it makes me a bad person.
Also, I'm glad you all appreciate my Toddlers & Tiaras gif. I used to PVR that series like crazy. No shame.
That is great and I'm glad it worked out well for you! Clearly, I didn't mean to imply that everyone who has college tuition help or things paid for turn out badly. My husband paid all of his daughter's college tuition and she graduated and is in the workforce successfully.
I also think that already paying for things for yourself, knowing the value of money, and the maturity you gained in those 4 years also contributed to your success.
Honestly, I think my parents prepared me well for all that in my teens before I left high school and I think I would have done as well if I'd gone right to postsecondary, but I didn't know what I wanted to study, so I worked abroad for a while and then tried some different things before deciding on a degree. But my parents gave me a lot of responsibility/independence (financial and otherwise) pretty early on, which I know is maybe not so usual now.
I spent a semester abroad at 15, for example, and I'd been managing my money and time for a few years already by the time I was 17 (when I accepted a job in Spain without help from my family.) I did have a lot of expectations on me in my teens to take care of myself...being given a lot of "stuff" and money doesn't necessarily make you ungrateful or demonstrate a lack of maturity.
I also don't think it's correct to assume that a person doesn't know the value of money if they haven't had to support themselves, because I do think my parents did an exemplary job of instilling good financial sense into me from a young age, long before I'd ever had a job of my own.
I don't intend this to sound argumentative or anything, but I do deal with a lot of people's assumptions about my upbringing and my parents because of everything I've been given, so I just want to offer another perspective to the whole "spoiled rich kid" (not that I was even rich) thing. I wasn't out spending my parents' money on designer shoes and failing my classes, and I was able to take pretty good care of myself from the second I left my parents' home because they taught me well and I tried to listen...you know what I mean?
Sorry about the novel, everyone. This is just a sore spot with me.0 -
girldownsouth wrote: »girldownsouth wrote: »orangesmartie wrote: »orangesmartie wrote: »FOR ORANGESMARTIE:
Keep on climbing that mountain, baby steps at a time. Sending all good wishes for your mum's surgery today. Have you taken your pill today? If not, go and do it now... Right now... Good. (((HUGS)))
Thank you everyone for supportive messages.
I have taken my tablets today and yesterday.
@MoHousdon I love the idea that this is a village. I'm imagining us all in little English country cottages, nattering over the garden fence and on the village green
Good for you!
I would love that! As long as I can eat cookies and have tea. I would make an EXCELLENT English person/woman. Plus, I do a pretty good English accent.
I may have been doing one in my head just then.
Here, you have biscuits and tea. Cookies are 'merican
I was going to make the same correction. Us Brits are sensitive about our biscuits apparently.
No offense intended. I guess I wouldn't make a good Brit after all.
Definitely none taken. I'm sure you'd get by just fine. I'd like to hear your accent. I love hearing Americans try and do it. A guy I used to work with said his favourite word to say was 'people' and it cracked me up when he said it.
My favourite thing to do in an American (southern) accent is rhyme wagon and dragging...
I like to try an Aussie accent and say "maybe the dingo ate your baby" randomly. I'm getting pretty good at it.0 -
berlynnwall wrote: »berlynnwall wrote: »
Yeah, that's tricky. I'll be interested to see if anyone else offers advice. My daughter is working now, but the plan is that this is a year off from university while she gets her health in check. We're still paying for her phone etc and she has use of a car (kind of shared between her and her brother), and I'm wondering if we should expect her to pay something towards her keep.I did it. I messaged my stepdaughter. This is what I said.
"You need to message your dad. He needs to talk to you, but you haven't returned his text message. Also, Sunday is Father's Day and I didn't know if you were planning on being around."
It was probably not the nicest message, but it's a lot nicer than what I wanted to say which is this.
Come pick up your cat from hell, give me my key, get your stuff, and get out. You obviously don't want to be a part of our lives and I'm not going to be your storage unit and cat's caretaker anymore. Your dad has tried really hard to make sure you feel a part of our family, we all have, and you've done nothing but take advantage of that and I've had enough. Oh, and I expect you to have a check for $400 for your tags to your dad by Monday.
Every time I think about her and what's been going on, I get so angry and want to cry (that's probably more PMS) and I just hoped when she came into our lives, things would be so different. I'm sad now.
How many times did you consider sending the second message and then erase it? If she didn't have the money for the tags, the car would have to stay at the house.
I never typed any part of the second message, I just thought it and have been for quite some time now.
My husband brought this up during our "discussion" (fight) last Friday. He asked if I wanted him to take the car away from her if she couldn't pay the tags, and I said no because then she wouldn't have any way to get to work. Although, that's not really my problem. I wasn't relying on other people when I was 19, I had a car that I paid for and was working AND going to college full time. I know she's not me, but she needs to learn some accountability and responsibility. I might make the suggestion that until she CAN pay for the tags, that he drive the car since it's in his name anyway.
I'm afraid that if I keep bringing this up to my husband, we'll have a terrible vacation and anniversary and I've waited 15 DAMN years for this and I REFUSE to let her ruin that for us. Why does she have to be such a selfish brat?!
Whatever happens, I am sure you and your hubby will be all the stronger for it. You are dealing with it together. I kind of have a similar thing, although the stepson lives in our house, we never see him due to work or his being out with friends, or he's asleep while we are all home. He's 23, we have gotten several used cars for him, this current one, he has been told will be the last one we purchase. Still he has no incentive to find his own place and move out. Our house is a little cramped and I had planned to move my youngest into his room, when I was under the impression he was moving out with a friend. That fell through, so now we are stuck. Still paying for his phone and car insurance too. He has been asked to pay for these things and has not begun to pay for them. His job is enough for him to pay for that at least. I am pretty frustrated myself.
Just my opinion, but I think that adults over 20 should definitely be paying something towards their keep, if not paying for all their own extras while living at home (car, phone, non-essentials). In my experience, people whose parents give them a free ride with no end in sight often just milk it for all it's worth.
I may just be jealous though because my mom made me watch my baby brother for free after school and all day in the summer from the time I was 12 until I was 17 so she could work two jobs. Then, when I was 17 she made me get a real job and contribute to the household with the money I made. These kids don't know how good they have it and it irrationally bothers me.
I agree, but it's not all "good". It's a short-term enabling and then they have no idea how to deal with the real world. I'm sorry you are bitter about some things in your past, but honestly, I guarantee that made you a better, stronger person!
That's so true. A cousin of mine had wealthy parents, and they paid for everything - car, college, off campus apartment, spending money... he had to do nothing but go to class. I would have KILLED for that opportunity. I love school and would have done so well with that kind of support. My cousin? He failed out of college, flooded his apartment screwing around with the fire alarm, and became a criminal. Seriously.
Sadly, this is common.
I'm afraid to admit this now, but my parents paid my tuition, books, rent, groceries, bought me a brand-new car, etc etc for university. They're comfortable, not wealthy, but I'm an only child so they only had one to pay for, they had the money, and they wanted me to be able to focus on school. I bartended a few nights a week, but mostly I just went to school. But I did graduate on time with the degree I wanted and got a "grown up job" right afterwards, so, uh, there's that?
However, I did take four years off before I went to university and had a job and paid my bills by myself all that time, so I already had the life skills to take care of myself by the time they started paying for stuff, so maybe that helps?
It kind of rubs me the wrong way when people assume I'm a spoiled brat because my parents were in a position to help me out a lot with school and I didn't have to struggle or take out loans, though. Not saying you guys are implying that...but just in general, I really don't think it makes me a bad person.
Also, I'm glad you all appreciate my Toddlers & Tiaras gif. I used to PVR that series like crazy. No shame.
That is great and I'm glad it worked out well for you! Clearly, I didn't mean to imply that everyone who has college tuition help or things paid for turn out badly. My husband paid all of his daughter's college tuition and she graduated and is in the workforce successfully.
I also think that already paying for things for yourself, knowing the value of money, and the maturity you gained in those 4 years also contributed to your success.
Honestly, I think my parents prepared me well for all that in my teens before I left high school and I think I would have done as well if I'd gone right to postsecondary, but I didn't know what I wanted to study, so I worked abroad for a while and then tried some different things before deciding on a degree. But my parents gave me a lot of responsibility/independence (financial and otherwise) pretty early on, which I know is maybe not so usual now.
I spent a semester abroad at 15, for example, and I'd been managing my money and time for a few years already by the time I was 17 (when I accepted a job in Spain without help from my family.) I did have a lot of expectations on me in my teens to take care of myself...being given a lot of "stuff" and money doesn't necessarily make you ungrateful or demonstrate a lack of maturity.
I also don't think it's correct to assume that a person doesn't know the value of money if they haven't had to support themselves, because I do think my parents did an exemplary job of instilling good financial sense into me from a young age, long before I'd ever had a job of my own.
I don't intend this to sound argumentative or anything, but I do deal with a lot of people's assumptions about my upbringing and my parents because of everything I've been given, so I just want to offer another perspective to the whole "spoiled rich kid" (not that I was even rich) thing. I wasn't out spending my parents' money on designer shoes and failing my classes, and I was able to take pretty good care of myself from the second I left my parents' home because they taught me well and I tried to listen...you know what I mean?
Sorry about the novel, everyone. This is just a sore spot with me.
No worries! I get what you are saying and I DO appreciate the other perspective. Mine is a bit skewed because I work in the financial industry and I "think" money, as in every situation is thought out in a money-based way for me. Not because I'm obsessed with it, but because this has been my career for 20 years and it is deeply ingrained. Plus, I'm fascinated by the psychology of money and the behaviors it produces. Very interesting to me.0 -
So, actual confession instead of potty talk.
I don't like people. I mean, really. And that is just my brain's excuse for what is essentially a cross between being a true introvert and a social anxiety disorder. Anyway, my husband's old group of friends (ie, he hasn't seen any of them in the 10 years we've been together) is getting together on Sat for a "goodbye party" for one of them who's moving and tracked him down and invited us to the party. I don't wanna go (said in a pouty/whiny voice). My husband wants to go to an outdoor movie Sat night (which isn't my thing...see introvert/social anxiety above), and then Sun (Father's day) we're going to the track for a big get together with a group of friends (see introvert status). Next Fri we're going to my family's for a week to help my parents with the house (I love my family best for short visits, or from a distance). So last night I told him all this, and pretty much laid it on him....if it's really important to you, I'll go, but these reasons are why I'd rather not. I feel a little guilty, 'cause he's an extrovert and actually likes hanging out with people, but not really.0 -
xMrBunglex wrote: »CountessKitteh wrote: »Can I just say how awesome this thread has become?
Yes, it started out about trash bags, peanut butter, and hot chocolate powder, but it has evolved into a community within the MFP community where people actually CARE and SUPPORT one another through stupid decisions, horrible situations, and hilarious escapades.
You all rock. And if I wasn't super lazy, I would finally get around to friend requesting the rest of the regular posters.
Super great.
Speaking of stupid decisions, I confess that when I was 20 (way back in 1989...YIKES), I was living on my own for the first time. Cut all my rocker hair off & was bummed how fat I looked.
I then went on a crash diet that consisted of the following:
Breakfast: Can of Diet Coke
Morning Snack: Can of Diet Coke
Lunch: Turkey sandwich (2 pieces of bread, 1 slice of deli turkey, 1 slice of deli swiss, mustard)
Afternoon Snack: Can of Diet Coke
Workout: 45-60 minutes on a cheap-*kitten* rowing machine I had in my apartment
Dinner: 6 pack of Bud Light tall boys
I was a chubby 210 lbs when I started, and a thin 165 after 4 months. From there I started weight training.
I'd get slaughtered for suggesting this in 2015, but....I lived to tell the tale
Edited to add: Just did the MFP calculator:
1100 in
497 out
BMR: 1,985
Daily Deficit: 1,382
that's about 3 lbs per week - the maths add up!
Oh god. I've never shared this one, but you've inspired me, lol. So I was 28 and weighed 112. I decided I "needed" to weigh 100 (ex-husband who always told me I looked out-of-shape + my tendencies toward being a perfectionist + coming from a family where I was the "smart one" but my mom and sister were models who just never thought I looked good + just general stupidity). My brilliant "diet"?
Breakfast: Coffee and a Ry-Krisp
Morning snack: Half an apple and a Diet Pepsi
Lunch: a slice of turkey, a slice of cheese, and the other half of the apple
Afternoon snack: Diet Pepsi and cocaine (yep)
Late afternoon: 2.5 hour workout: free weights, elliptical, and swimming
Dinner: Vegetable soup or a salad with no dressing, wine, and more cocaine
So yeah. I reached 100 pounds that way, but also spiraled into an increasingly crazy lifestyle until I simply decided enough was enough and did what I needed to do (which is another story I don't need to bore you with).
I am glad to step in and try to let MFP posters and others know that they don't NEED that latest fad diet or "diet aid". But I try to be at least somewhat gentle/compassionate because I know too well how insane we get when we're desperately trying to reach some stupidly unrealistic goal, are surrounded by ill-informed or toxic people, and have no clue about what real health really means.
Goodness people! All y'all who did things like this how did you function?!? I would be so incredibly hangry there's no way I would make it one day eating that little!
I can't speak for others, but you may have overlooked one teensy detail in my narrative.
Hint: "cocaine"
Haha yes it did, whoops! Glad you're clean now though- cocaine is a *kitten*!0 -
Is she still on TV and things?girldownsouth wrote: »
I was just beginning my dieting career around that time, and could also confess to some pretty poor choices. Somehow we made it through, with our metabolisms intact. Personally I blame Rosemary Conley.xMrBunglex wrote: »CountessKitteh wrote: »Can I just say how awesome this thread has become?
Yes, it started out about trash bags, peanut butter, and hot chocolate powder, but it has evolved into a community within the MFP community where people actually CARE and SUPPORT one another through stupid decisions, horrible situations, and hilarious escapades.
You all rock. And if I wasn't super lazy, I would finally get around to friend requesting the rest of the regular posters.
Super great.
Speaking of stupid decisions, I confess that when I was 20 (way back in 1989...YIKES), I was living on my own for the first time. Cut all my rocker hair off & was bummed how fat I looked.
I then went on a crash diet that consisted of the following:
Breakfast: Can of Diet Coke
Morning Snack: Can of Diet Coke
Lunch: Turkey sandwich (2 pieces of bread, 1 slice of deli turkey, 1 slice of deli swiss, mustard)
Afternoon Snack: Can of Diet Coke
Workout: 45-60 minutes on a cheap-*kitten* rowing machine I had in my apartment
Dinner: 6 pack of Bud Light tall boys
I was a chubby 210 lbs when I started, and a thin 165 after 4 months. From there I started weight training.
I'd get slaughtered for suggesting this in 2015, but....I lived to tell the tale
Edited to add: Just did the MFP calculator:
1100 in
497 out
BMR: 1,985
Daily Deficit: 1,382
that's about 3 lbs per week - the maths add up!
I always think of her when I sautée mushrooms in herbs and butter as she said never cook them with fat as they are like little sponges and now I think of them as delicious little sponges.
I think she's also responsible for my mum's less is best attitude to dieting though.
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berlynnwall wrote: »girldownsouth wrote: »girldownsouth wrote: »orangesmartie wrote: »orangesmartie wrote: »FOR ORANGESMARTIE:
Keep on climbing that mountain, baby steps at a time. Sending all good wishes for your mum's surgery today. Have you taken your pill today? If not, go and do it now... Right now... Good. (((HUGS)))
Thank you everyone for supportive messages.
I have taken my tablets today and yesterday.
@MoHousdon I love the idea that this is a village. I'm imagining us all in little English country cottages, nattering over the garden fence and on the village green
Good for you!
I would love that! As long as I can eat cookies and have tea. I would make an EXCELLENT English person/woman. Plus, I do a pretty good English accent.
I may have been doing one in my head just then.
Here, you have biscuits and tea. Cookies are 'merican
I was going to make the same correction. Us Brits are sensitive about our biscuits apparently.
No offense intended. I guess I wouldn't make a good Brit after all.
Definitely none taken. I'm sure you'd get by just fine. I'd like to hear your accent. I love hearing Americans try and do it. A guy I used to work with said his favourite word to say was 'people' and it cracked me up when he said it.
My favourite thing to do in an American (southern) accent is rhyme wagon and dragging...
I like to try an Aussie accent and say "maybe the dingo ate your baby" randomly. I'm getting pretty good at it.
Hahahaha I definitely just said this out loud alone in my apartment and had a laughing fit all on my own!0
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