May 2019 Monthly Running Challenge
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PastorVincent wrote: »Question for you all..
How did you build up distance? Particularly when running on your own I.e. non race days
I'm consistently stuck at 3-4 miles. I know I'm fit enough to run further (very occasionally surprise myself with a 5 miler) but it's like I've got a mental block where I get tired and bored.
Tried running with music/ without, dog/no dog.
Any tips would be great as I'd like to see some progression!
Physically or mentally?
Physically the answer is easy. Add up to 10% each week to your longest run, and cut back every three or four weeks.
Mentally? That is much harder because it is specific to you. For me, I listen to audiobooks while I run. After a couple of miles in my mind is lost in the world of the story and I am no longer focused on time or distance.
Ultimately you have to decide you want it more than you want to stop. A plan does help because it gives you solid targets. Also races help as they give you a goal. "I want to run the so-and-so half marathon so I need to do this!"
Audiobooks is a good idea, Will defo give that a go!
Will also try the 10% too. I think I add too much extra and then get frustrated that I can't suddenly run an extra mile!
I think you're right. A lack of goals and also running the same routes are the main issues. But easily solved if I want to.
Amature runners always seem to push too hard too fast. It is like we all think we are going to the Olympics in a few weeks or something
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I'm looking to mix up my post long run recovery meal, If I don't plan I will just devour whatever I get my hands on. Any tips on a solid recovery meal?0
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Question for you all..
How did you build up distance? Particularly when running on your own I.e. non race days
I'm consistently stuck at 3-4 miles. I know I'm fit enough to run further (very occasionally surprise myself with a 5 miler) but it's like I've got a mental block where I get tired and bored.
Tried running with music/ without, dog/no dog.
Any tips would be great as I'd like to see some progression!
As far as the mental block around getting tired and bored, the solution is to run somewhere where at 4 miles you are at least a mile away from where you need to be in order to quit. Walking is much more boring than running, so you run back!
There’s also bridge to 10k, which is for going from a 5k to a 10k distance, which might give you a program to follow.4 -
@tess453 - Another method is to run by time... so if it takes you 40 minutes to run 4 miles, try running for 45 or 50 and don't pay attention to the distance (turn off the app notifications). That way you aren't focusing on how far you ave run at all. I regularly update my running playlist with music that I like so it sounds fresh and not just the same songs all the time.
Some here listen to podcasts and also have apps with a running story line. The one that comes to mind is Zombies Run...
@Eddie_ice - I think it to depends on when you run and what you nutritional goals are... that said I try to plan what I am going to eat ahead of time. I am not usually hungry after my long run so I need to make something I will eat and my go to is a smoothy with Greek yogurt, berries, peanut butter, spinach or kale and some protein powder. I also like to have cold orange slices when it is hot. Other than that I eat my normal planned meals for the rest of the day. If you are interested we have another sub-group here that is nutrition focused
@7lenny7 used to post about his struggles with wanting to eat everything so maybe he can provide more insight...0 -
@Eddie_Ice I plan ahead to eat everything that’s not nailed down on long run days. Usually fries or sweet potato fries, plus bbq or a burger, or Mediterranean food, or pasta. So far it’s been working for me, my maintenance weight stays at about what is predicted by my logging. But for me half the point of a long run is getting to eat whatever I want (within reason). I’m diabetic and after a long run I can suck down about three times my normal amount of carbs without a blood glucose spike. And even pigging out freely I usually have some extra calories from the run to bank for the next day.
What are your nutritional goals? Are you trying to lose weight at the moment?0 -
@shanaber + @rheddmobile I like the idea of a post run shake, I want to have something that really feeds my body with high nutritional value before I eat a large pizza for the heck of it. I am trying to lose a little weight but my primary running goals are to keep the weight off so I can continue drinking beer. I make my own and its hard having that much beer in the house and not having a gut so running is my pathway to guilt free beer consumption. I've also started lifting trying to give my body some definition, I do not want to go all bulk but I do want to maximize some lean muscle. I think yogurt, berries and protein might be the way to go maybe get wild and throw in a banana lol.3
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@shanaber + @rheddmobile I like the idea of a post run shake, I want to have something that really feeds my body with high nutritional value before I eat a large pizza for the heck of it. I am trying to lose a little weight but my primary running goals are to keep the weight off so I can continue drinking beer. I make my own and its hard having that much beer in the house and not having a gut so running is my pathway to guilt free beer consumption. I've also started lifting trying to give my body some definition, I do not want to go all bulk but I do want to maximize some lean muscle. I think yogurt, berries and protein might be the way to go maybe get wild and throw in a banana lol.
Sounds great! Greek yogurt, frozen berries, a tablespoon of almond butter, a capful of vanilla extract, and a scoop of 100% cacao powder is my thing right now. If you like dark chocolate, cacao powder is like magic, turns any food into chocolate. And it’s full of antioxidants so no guilt!
Frozen honeydew melon tastes so good in the summer after a run. That’s my side with bbq instead of bbq beans, when I’m trying to be virtuous.0 -
rheddmobile wrote: »@shanaber + @rheddmobile I like the idea of a post run shake, I want to have something that really feeds my body with high nutritional value before I eat a large pizza for the heck of it. I am trying to lose a little weight but my primary running goals are to keep the weight off so I can continue drinking beer. I make my own and its hard having that much beer in the house and not having a gut so running is my pathway to guilt free beer consumption. I've also started lifting trying to give my body some definition, I do not want to go all bulk but I do want to maximize some lean muscle. I think yogurt, berries and protein might be the way to go maybe get wild and throw in a banana lol.
Sounds great! Greek yogurt, frozen berries, a tablespoon of almond butter, a capful of vanilla extract, and a scoop of 100% cacao powder is my thing right now. If you like dark chocolate, cacao powder is like magic, turns any food into chocolate. And it’s full of antioxidants so no guilt!
Thanks that sounds good as hell! I'm going to try that on sunday!2 -
Question for you all..
How did you build up distance? Particularly when running on your own I.e. non race days
I'm consistently stuck at 3-4 miles. I know I'm fit enough to run further (very occasionally surprise myself with a 5 miler) but it's like I've got a mental block where I get tired and bored.
Tried running with music/ without, dog/no dog.
Any tips would be great as I'd like to see some progression!
I was stuck at 3-4 miles for a while last year. Eventually I started running slower (even though I already thought I was running really slow) and that made running farther a lot easier physically. Mentally, I really enjoy the exploration opportunities from running farther, so made sure to map out my longer runs to places that I hadn't been and wanted to check out. Admittedly this will vary by your location.3 -
Love this ^^@shanaber + @rheddmobile I like the idea of a post run shake, I want to have something that really feeds my body with high nutritional value before I eat a large pizza for the heck of it. I am trying to lose a little weight but my primary running goals are to keep the weight off so I can continue drinking beer. I make my own and its hard having that much beer in the house and not having a gut so running is my pathway to guilt free beer consumption. I've also started lifting trying to give my body some definition, I do not want to go all bulk but I do want to maximize some lean muscle. I think yogurt, berries and protein might be the way to go maybe get wild and throw in a banana lol.
Ya know they have hats and shirts that say 'will run for beer' 🤣 (I actually have the wine version)!1 -
Love this ^^@shanaber + @rheddmobile I like the idea of a post run shake, I want to have something that really feeds my body with high nutritional value before I eat a large pizza for the heck of it. I am trying to lose a little weight but my primary running goals are to keep the weight off so I can continue drinking beer. I make my own and its hard having that much beer in the house and not having a gut so running is my pathway to guilt free beer consumption. I've also started lifting trying to give my body some definition, I do not want to go all bulk but I do want to maximize some lean muscle. I think yogurt, berries and protein might be the way to go maybe get wild and throw in a banana lol.
Ya know they have hats and shirts that say 'will run for beer' 🤣 (I actually have the wine version)!
Oh. Umm I actually do run for pizza. And chocolate.
On the increasing distance thing, my vote also goes to increasing distance very slowly and going slowerrrrrrr. I'm currently experimenting with the Jeff Galloway (run-walk-run) method and finding I can go a lot further without feeling like I'm about to die, and my times are pretty much the same as when I was tired and forcing myself to not stop running. Re mental distraction, discovering the Zombies, Run! app was the real breakthrough for me. I was so engrossed in the story I didn't want to stop! Now though I've reached the point where my running is my therapy, my mind wanders and works its way through issues and I often realise afterwards that I didn't hear much of whatever I was listening to. I couldn't even tell you what most of the songs on my playlist are, I only occassionally register them!
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Love this ^^@shanaber + @rheddmobile I like the idea of a post run shake, I want to have something that really feeds my body with high nutritional value before I eat a large pizza for the heck of it. I am trying to lose a little weight but my primary running goals are to keep the weight off so I can continue drinking beer. I make my own and its hard having that much beer in the house and not having a gut so running is my pathway to guilt free beer consumption. I've also started lifting trying to give my body some definition, I do not want to go all bulk but I do want to maximize some lean muscle. I think yogurt, berries and protein might be the way to go maybe get wild and throw in a banana lol.
Ya know they have hats and shirts that say 'will run for beer' 🤣 (I actually have the wine version)!
Running for wine and/or beer is a completely worthy cause
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KatieJane83 wrote: »
Love this ^^@shanaber + @rheddmobile I like the idea of a post run shake, I want to have something that really feeds my body with high nutritional value before I eat a large pizza for the heck of it. I am trying to lose a little weight but my primary running goals are to keep the weight off so I can continue drinking beer. I make my own and its hard having that much beer in the house and not having a gut so running is my pathway to guilt free beer consumption. I've also started lifting trying to give my body some definition, I do not want to go all bulk but I do want to maximize some lean muscle. I think yogurt, berries and protein might be the way to go maybe get wild and throw in a banana lol.
Ya know they have hats and shirts that say 'will run for beer' 🤣 (I actually have the wine version)!
Running for wine and/or beer is a completely worthy cause
I knew I would like you guys lol!
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5-1 injury idle
5-2 rest
5-3 injury idle
5-4 injury idle
5-5 injury idle
5-6 rest
5-7 3.5k slow
5-8 7.5k slow
5-9 rest
5-10 7k easy
5-11 11k slow
5-12 7k recovery
5-13 rest
5-14 7k threshold
5-15 7k recovery
May Total: 50k
May Goal: 100k
January Total: 131k
February Total: 159.5k
March Total: 183k
April Total: 126k
Monthly average: 149.875k
Next year when you pop in here claiming your December 2019 mileage, what accomplishments will you have made?
Run at least 4 5k races.
Get under 30:00 and a PR for 5k.
Average at least 135k per month, which would put me over 1,000 miles for the year.
Run the Year Team: Five for Nineteen
Slogged through a recovery run today. It was 70 degrees F and partly cloudy, so my body was confused.
2019 Races:
4-13 Shine the Light 5K - 31:12 chip time; First Place male 65 and older
6-1 Freedom 5K (Will be off the schedule due to another commitment)
6-30 Strides for Starfish 5K5 -
@shanaber + @rheddmobile I like the idea of a post run shake, I want to have something that really feeds my body with high nutritional value before I eat a large pizza for the heck of it. I am trying to lose a little weight but my primary running goals are to keep the weight off so I can continue drinking beer. I make my own and its hard having that much beer in the house and not having a gut so running is my pathway to guilt free beer consumption. I've also started lifting trying to give my body some definition, I do not want to go all bulk but I do want to maximize some lean muscle. I think yogurt, berries and protein might be the way to go maybe get wild and throw in a banana lol.
"Give runners a fish, and they'll eat today. Teach runners to make beer, and they'll never lack friends."8 -
@shanaber + @rheddmobile I like the idea of a post run shake, I want to have something that really feeds my body with high nutritional value before I eat a large pizza for the heck of it. I am trying to lose a little weight but my primary running goals are to keep the weight off so I can continue drinking beer. I make my own and its hard having that much beer in the house and not having a gut so running is my pathway to guilt free beer consumption. I've also started lifting trying to give my body some definition, I do not want to go all bulk but I do want to maximize some lean muscle. I think yogurt, berries and protein might be the way to go maybe get wild and throw in a banana lol.
"Give runners a fish, and they'll eat today. Teach runners to make beer, and they'll never lack friends."
Its a fun hobby and I'm never out of beer. I have a three tap kegerator that holds 15 gallons of whatever I've brewed year round!4 -
I do the out and back method of running, so run half the planned distance, turn around and run back. and fortunately on my current path I have several turn around points, so like this morning I planned on 5k, but when I got to my turn around point my legs kept going to the 6k turn around point, no idea how that happened. so I did 6k this morning. As others have said, once I'm that far, no way I'm walking home, too boring for that!
Was looking at the information for my July HM, and it turns out they are really really strict on the No Earphones rules (seriously? why!!). So what do you do when you cant wear earphones? Is this a common thing? I'm guessing its because the run is happening on rural roads with high speed limits. but most of us are sensible to have our volume turned down. Do I just need to embrace the suck and do a few runs without music? I hate listening to myself breathe lol. Or should I be *that* runner who plays music on my phone...
Oh and slightly amusing story, there is a guy who always runs the same route as me, but in the opposite direction, so we often cross paths. he never talks, never says hi to me, smiles, nods or anything. its like I'm not there. Ok dude, that's fine, happy being like that. Though he always says hi to my neighbour who is often sitting on his deck in the morning in summer. Well this morning I pass him just as I was about to turn, so I ended up following him for a bit then passing him! I was really self conscious about this, I made a point of sticking to my usual pace, and I left him in the dust. Its awkward seeing someone running every day and they never say hi so passing him like that was just weird.10 -
@shanaber + @rheddmobile I like the idea of a post run shake, I want to have something that really feeds my body with high nutritional value before I eat a large pizza for the heck of it. I am trying to lose a little weight but my primary running goals are to keep the weight off so I can continue drinking beer. I make my own and its hard having that much beer in the house and not having a gut so running is my pathway to guilt free beer consumption. I've also started lifting trying to give my body some definition, I do not want to go all bulk but I do want to maximize some lean muscle. I think yogurt, berries and protein might be the way to go maybe get wild and throw in a banana lol.
"Give runners a fish, and they'll eat today. Teach runners to make beer, and they'll never lack friends."
Its a fun hobby and I'm never out of beer. I have a three tap kegerator that holds 15 gallons of whatever I've brewed year round!
So umm... @Eddie_Ice where do you live and when can we visit? I will bring the post group run pizza to have with that beer! Hope you have lots of room cause we are a big crowd! 🤣4 -
I do the out and back method of running, so run half the planned distance, turn around and run back. and fortunately on my current path I have several turn around points, so like this morning I planned on 5k, but when I got to my turn around point my legs kept going to the 6k turn around point, no idea how that happened. so I did 6k this morning. As others have said, once I'm that far, no way I'm walking home, too boring for that!
Was looking at the information for my July HM, and it turns out they are really really strict on the No Earphones rules (seriously? why!!). So what do you do when you cant wear earphones? Is this a common thing? I'm guessing its because the run is happening on rural roads with high speed limits. but most of us are sensible to have our volume turned down. Do I just need to embrace the suck and do a few runs without music? I hate listening to myself breathe lol. Or should I be *that* runner who plays music on my phone...
Oh and slightly amusing story, there is a guy who always runs the same route as me, but in the opposite direction, so we often cross paths. he never talks, never says hi to me, smiles, nods or anything. its like I'm not there. Ok dude, that's fine, happy being like that. Though he always says hi to my neighbour who is often sitting on his deck in the morning in summer. Well this morning I pass him just as I was about to turn, so I ended up following him for a bit then passing him! I was really self conscious about this, I made a point of sticking to my usual pace, and I left him in the dust. Its awkward seeing someone running every day and they never say hi so passing him like that was just weird.
As a non-music running runner I will say, embrace the silence. I love listening to nature, my feet, my breathing - keeps me in tune with how I'm running. Also, who says you need to train without music? You'll be fine on race day. Please don't be that runner who has music playing out loud (think about those around you who prefer to run without music and who are your speed who have to listen to it for two hours (I have similar rules about those who run with spare change or keys in their pockets that jingle - and the noise is the main reason I don't run with jellybeans!)).
Also, don't be the person who ignores the rules. At my half on Saturday I had to actually push a woman out of the way as she couldn't hear me behind her (either running or saying then shouting 'coming through') because she had earbuds in (running down a row of grapes, there were two runners in front of her side by side in the tractor wheel marks, and she was directly behind them but dead centre, causing a total block of the row). She didn't appreciate the push, I didn't appreciate the four seconds she cost me (remembering I was only sub 1:50 by eight seconds).
Rant over. Do as you please, but please be considerate!8 -
@shanaber + @rheddmobile I like the idea of a post run shake, I want to have something that really feeds my body with high nutritional value before I eat a large pizza for the heck of it. I am trying to lose a little weight but my primary running goals are to keep the weight off so I can continue drinking beer. I make my own and its hard having that much beer in the house and not having a gut so running is my pathway to guilt free beer consumption. I've also started lifting trying to give my body some definition, I do not want to go all bulk but I do want to maximize some lean muscle. I think yogurt, berries and protein might be the way to go maybe get wild and throw in a banana lol.
"Give runners a fish, and they'll eat today. Teach runners to make beer, and they'll never lack friends."
Its a fun hobby and I'm never out of beer. I have a three tap kegerator that holds 15 gallons of whatever I've brewed year round!
So umm... @Eddie_Ice where do you live and when can we visit? I will bring the post group run pizza to have with that beer! Hope you have lots of room cause we are a big crowd! 🤣@shanaber + @rheddmobile I like the idea of a post run shake, I want to have something that really feeds my body with high nutritional value before I eat a large pizza for the heck of it. I am trying to lose a little weight but my primary running goals are to keep the weight off so I can continue drinking beer. I make my own and its hard having that much beer in the house and not having a gut so running is my pathway to guilt free beer consumption. I've also started lifting trying to give my body some definition, I do not want to go all bulk but I do want to maximize some lean muscle. I think yogurt, berries and protein might be the way to go maybe get wild and throw in a banana lol.
"Give runners a fish, and they'll eat today. Teach runners to make beer, and they'll never lack friends."
Its a fun hobby and I'm never out of beer. I have a three tap kegerator that holds 15 gallons of whatever I've brewed year round!
So umm... @Eddie_Ice where do you live and when can we visit? I will bring the post group run pizza to have with that beer! Hope you have lots of room cause we are a big crowd! 🤣
My husband has turned me into a bit of a beer snob so ... @Eddie_Ice what kind of beer do you have on tap today?
ContraryMaryMary wrote: »I do the out and back method of running, so run half the planned distance, turn around and run back. and fortunately on my current path I have several turn around points, so like this morning I planned on 5k, but when I got to my turn around point my legs kept going to the 6k turn around point, no idea how that happened. so I did 6k this morning. As others have said, once I'm that far, no way I'm walking home, too boring for that!
Was looking at the information for my July HM, and it turns out they are really really strict on the No Earphones rules (seriously? why!!). So what do you do when you cant wear earphones? Is this a common thing? I'm guessing its because the run is happening on rural roads with high speed limits. but most of us are sensible to have our volume turned down. Do I just need to embrace the suck and do a few runs without music? I hate listening to myself breathe lol. Or should I be *that* runner who plays music on my phone...
Oh and slightly amusing story, there is a guy who always runs the same route as me, but in the opposite direction, so we often cross paths. he never talks, never says hi to me, smiles, nods or anything. its like I'm not there. Ok dude, that's fine, happy being like that. Though he always says hi to my neighbour who is often sitting on his deck in the morning in summer. Well this morning I pass him just as I was about to turn, so I ended up following him for a bit then passing him! I was really self conscious about this, I made a point of sticking to my usual pace, and I left him in the dust. Its awkward seeing someone running every day and they never say hi so passing him like that was just weird.
As a non-music running runner I will say, embrace the silence. I love listening to nature, my feet, my breathing - keeps me in tune with how I'm running. Also, who says you need to train without music? You'll be fine on race day. Please don't be that runner who has music playing out loud (think about those around you who prefer to run without music and who are your speed who have to listen to it for two hours (I have similar rules about those who run with spare change or keys in their pockets that jingle - and the noise is the main reason I don't run with jellybeans!)).
Also, don't be the person who ignores the rules. At my half on Saturday I had to actually push a woman out of the way as she couldn't hear me behind her (either running or saying then shouting 'coming through') because she had earbuds in (running down a row of grapes, there were two runners in front of her side by side in the tractor wheel marks, and she was directly behind them but dead centre, causing a total block of the row). She didn't appreciate the push, I didn't appreciate the four seconds she cost me (remembering I was only sub 1:50 by eight seconds).
Rant over. Do as you please, but please be considerate!
When I ran my 10k, there was a woman playing music on her phone. I do not run with music. But it just happened to be music I liked... mostly. I was a little disappointed she was doing a run-walk thing and we didn't stay together for long.
However, there were more than a couple people running with cowbells during the 12k. THAT was annoying. Please don't run with cowbells.9
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